* best boot loader to use
@ Nick Gawronski
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` Georgina Joyce
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From: Nick Gawronski @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, I was wondering what is the best boot loader to use grub or lilo? I
have grub installed on my debian system but debian also has a package
lilo that I can install. I am trying to get both debian and fedora core 6
bootable and when I try adding the proper lines to my menu.lst file and
hit the down errow and then enter nothing happens. This makes me believe
that the boot loader is not working properly or I did not write the file
properly. Here is what I have currently in my menu.lst file, I have
debian installed on /dev/hda1 and fedora core 6 installed on /dev/hda3
Do you think I should stick with grub or switch to lilo?
### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below
## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs
## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet speakup_synth=dectlk
## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,0)
## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true
## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false
## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=
## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
## lockold=true
# lockold=false
## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=
## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0
## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(single-user) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single
## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all
## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true
## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false
## ## End Default Options ##
title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-speakup-686
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-speakup-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet speakup_synth=dectlk
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-speakup-686
savedefault
title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-speakup-686 (recovery mode)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-speakup-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet speakup_synth=dectlk single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-speakup-686
savedefault
### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
title fedora core 6
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6spkxen root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet speaku$
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6spkxen.img
savedefault
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* Re: best boot loader to use
[not found] ` <20070331182837.GA3267@cm.nu>
@ ` Nick Gawronski
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From: Nick Gawronski @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi, What does the savedefault option in grub do? If I have the fedora
stuff after the line that ends the automatic kernel list for debian will
update-grub mess with the fedora stuff?On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Shane wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 12:14:43PM -0500, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> > Hi, I was wondering what is the best boot loader to use grub or lilo? I
>
> It's really personal preference but I've found grub is much
> more robust and configurable. It has direct FS knowledge
> so doesn't care when the kernel moves on disk and is also
> much better at recovery. For example, when you have a bad
> config, you can always edit it right from the grub screens
> or drop to a commandline console to manually bring up a
> system.
>
> > hit the down errow and then enter nothing happens. This makes me believe
> > that the boot loader is not working properly or I did not write the file
> > properly. Here is what I have currently in my menu.lst file, I have
>
> Probably the latter. Unless you mean nothing at all
> happens in which case I would suspect the bootloader but
> likely grub is giving an error message which you could go
> from.
>
> > title fedora core 6
> > root (hd0,2)
> > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6spkxen root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet speaku$
> > initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6spkxen.img
> > savedefault
>
> Hmm, looks ok to me provided the paths are correct and the
> /boot/grub/default file exists. I wonder if savedefault
> needs /boot/grub/default to exist on the Fedora partn as
> well, doubt it though.
>
> S
>
>
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* RE: best boot loader to use
best boot loader to use Nick Gawronski
[not found] ` <20070331182837.GA3267@cm.nu>
@ ` Georgina Joyce
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From: Georgina Joyce @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hi
Well if you can boot into debian, how can you say your boot loader isn't working? Could it not be that you've made an error in the FC entry? Your kernel name is different to that of mine as you can see from the file I sent some time ago.
For some reason, I couldn't get the format you have used to work. So you might want to put the (hd0,2) on the kernel line and initrd lines. As in my example.
Providing you don't touch the debian lines, you will be alright and you'll get into your FC installation.
I've mainly used lilo and only recently moved to grub and I can tell you that they both do the same job but are quite different in their approaches. If you want a steeper learning curve switch over to lilo when you've got FC booting.
BTW:
Did you check that those tab spaces have not caused the line to wrap as in your post to me?
Regards
Gena
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:15 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: best boot loader to use
Hi, I was wondering what is the best boot loader to use grub or lilo? I
have grub installed on my debian system but debian also has a package
lilo that I can install. I am trying to get both debian and fedora core 6
bootable and when I try adding the proper lines to my menu.lst file and
hit the down errow and then enter nothing happens. This makes me believe
that the boot loader is not working properly or I did not write the file
properly. Here is what I have currently in my menu.lst file, I have
debian installed on /dev/hda1 and fedora core 6 installed on /dev/hda3
Do you think I should stick with grub or switch to lilo?
### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below
## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs
## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet speakup_synth=dectlk
## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,0)
## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true
## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false
## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=
## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
## lockold=true
# lockold=false
## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=
## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0
## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(single-user) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single
## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all
## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true
## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false
## ## End Default Options ##
title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-speakup-686
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-speakup-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet speakup_synth=dectlk
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-speakup-686
savedefault
title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-speakup-686 (recovery mode)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-speakup-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet speakup_synth=dectlk single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-speakup-686
savedefault
### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
title fedora core 6
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6spkxen root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet speaku$
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6spkxen.img
savedefault
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