RE: Try again a few years later

RE: Try again a few years later

[Andrew Hodgson]

Hi,

Ah, I actually remember making that mistake when I did the installation
of my current system back in 2003.  As you said, complete failure on my
part.

If you don't mind me asking, what sizes do you give your partitions?

I have a boot partition of I think around 20/25 mb, a swap of 64mb and
the rest is given over to the rest of the disk for general file system
usage.  I did try to create more but got issues, and since I don't keep
much in /home which can't be backed up in the event of an upgrade, I
didn't mind.  As I am going to start over with a new system, what dod
you suggest?

Thanks.
Andrew.

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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Adam Myrow
Sent: 04 March 2005 20:48
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> this is what I have here.  Also, should we put /etc in a different 
> partition?

Under absolutely no circumstance should you put /etc in its own
partition! 
This is because /etc is required for boot, to read /etc/fstab, and
startup scripts.  /etc/fstab tells what partitions are to be mounted
where.  If /etc were on its own partition, it would be impossible to
read /etc/fstab, and the system wouldn't boot.  That's a simplified
explanation. 
Actually, there are a *lot* of required files in /etc.  Basically, /etc,
/root, /bin, and /sbin should always be part of the root partition.


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RE: Try again a few years later

[Adam Myrow]

I'd say that it really depends on what you are doing.  If you know you 
will be storing a lot of stuff in /home, make it big.  Otherwise, make it 
small.  For me, personally, I like to have a very large /usr/local 
partition, because I compile a lot of stuff.  I chose Slackware, and it 
doesn't offer a lot of pre-built packages compared to other distributions. 
My main reason for sticking with Slackware is the Speakup support out of 
the box, and the simple installer.  I also like learning how things work, 
and with Slackware, you get to do a lot of that.  If you don't plan on 
compiling a lot of programs yourself, then either have no /usr/local 
partition, or a smaller one.  Or, you could just put everything on one big 
partition, and have another for swap.  It's mostly a matter of personal 
taste.

Re: Try again a few years later

[Gregory Nowak]

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One more thing I like about slackware is its /etc/rc.d structure,
where you have one large file doing many things, instead of having a
bunch of smaller files that you stop and start mainly in /etc/init.d
like you have in most other distros. This is only personal preference,
and there are many other people who like the way of doing things in
/etc/init.d.

Greg


On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:31:27PM -0600, Adam Myrow wrote:
> I'd say that it really depends on what you are doing.  If you know you 
> will be storing a lot of stuff in /home, make it big.  Otherwise, make it 
> small.  For me, personally, I like to have a very large /usr/local 
> partition, because I compile a lot of stuff.  I chose Slackware, and it 
> doesn't offer a lot of pre-built packages compared to other distributions. 
> My main reason for sticking with Slackware is the Speakup support out of 
> the box, and the simple installer.  I also like learning how things work, 
> and with Slackware, you get to do a lot of that.  If you don't plan on 
> compiling a lot of programs yourself, then either have no /usr/local 
> partition, or a smaller one.  Or, you could just put everything on one big 
> partition, and have another for swap.  It's mostly a matter of personal 
> taste.
> 
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slackware installation failed.

[Farhan]

Well i almost got slackware installed but i did the autobootloader config. i 
should of done the expert. thats my falt so. i had to reformat everything,. 
i'll get someone over here sunday and we'll have some floppies on hand to 
try it again. it was a lesson learned. lol i should install lilo to the mbr 
right? slakcware said it was slightly unsafe 

Re: slackware installation failed.

[Gregory Nowak]

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Yes, put lilo in the MBR. I personally never experienced problems with
doing so.

Greg


On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 10:54:46AM -0600, Farhan wrote:
> Well i almost got slackware installed but i did the autobootloader config. 
> i should of done the expert. thats my falt so. i had to reformat 
> everything,. i'll get someone over here sunday and we'll have some floppies 
> on hand to try it again. it was a lesson learned. lol i should install lilo 
> to the mbr right? slakcware said it was slightly unsafe 
> 
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Re: slackware installation failed.

[seth creature]

in short, yes, I have a drive that has hda1 win98, hda2 as the primary 
boot partaitian, and hda3 as the swap.  I chose the simple lilo 
configuration, and chose to store lilo to the mbr, it doesn't install if I 
use the expert mode but whenever I use the simple install, it does... 
don't know why, but there it is.

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Farhan wrote:

> Well i almost got slackware installed but i did the autobootloader config. i 
> should of done the expert. thats my falt so. i had to reformat everything,. 
> i'll get someone over here sunday and we'll have some floppies on hand to try 
> it again. it was a lesson learned. lol i should install lilo to the mbr 
> right? slakcware said it was slightly unsafe 
>
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Re: slackware installation failed.

[Farhan]

i actually got it now it was a miss hap yesterday of typing /dev/hdb or. 
something. lol i'm stupid
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From: "seth creature" <zorkmed@qwest.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: slackware installation failed.


> in short, yes, I have a drive that has hda1 win98, hda2 as the primary 
> boot partaitian, and hda3 as the swap.  I chose the simple lilo 
> configuration, and chose to store lilo to the mbr, it doesn't install if I 
> use the expert mode but whenever I use the simple install, it does... 
> don't know why, but there it is.
>
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Farhan wrote:
>
>> Well i almost got slackware installed but i did the autobootloader 
>> config. i should of done the expert. thats my falt so. i had to reformat 
>> everything,. i'll get someone over here sunday and we'll have some 
>> floppies on hand to try it again. it was a lesson learned. lol i should 
>> install lilo to the mbr right? slakcware said it was slightly unsafe
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
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Re: Try again a few years later

[Sean McMahon]

Sorry if this has already been answered.  The Debian installation manual
recommends twice the ram for your swap partician.  In other words, 100 MB of ram
means you should have 200 MB of swap
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From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later


Hi,

Ah, I actually remember making that mistake when I did the installation
of my current system back in 2003.  As you said, complete failure on my
part.

If you don't mind me asking, what sizes do you give your partitions?

I have a boot partition of I think around 20/25 mb, a swap of 64mb and
the rest is given over to the rest of the disk for general file system
usage.  I did try to create more but got issues, and since I don't keep
much in /home which can't be backed up in the event of an upgrade, I
didn't mind.  As I am going to start over with a new system, what dod
you suggest?

Thanks.
Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Adam Myrow
Sent: 04 March 2005 20:48
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> this is what I have here.  Also, should we put /etc in a different
> partition?

Under absolutely no circumstance should you put /etc in its own
partition!
This is because /etc is required for boot, to read /etc/fstab, and
startup scripts.  /etc/fstab tells what partitions are to be mounted
where.  If /etc were on its own partition, it would be impossible to
read /etc/fstab, and the system wouldn't boot.  That's a simplified
explanation.
Actually, there are a *lot* of required files in /etc.  Basically, /etc,
/root, /bin, and /sbin should always be part of the root partition.


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