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* Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47
       [not found] <mailman.166.1172336091.26005.speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
@  ` Doug Smith
     ` David Harvey
                     ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Doug Smith @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Ok, I will try to address two or three questions at one time.  I
accidentally set this subscription up the wrong way so that I get the
digest form of all the mails from the list, so I will have to change
it in a few minutes.  

Well, question 1: the machines I tried the GRML disk on to see if they
would boot.  The first one, a machine on display at a local Circuit
City store, was, indeed, an HP. It booted, then came the funny failure
message about the 128 samples.  Someone on here said he tried to boot
ubuntu in an hp machine with an amd 64 X 2 dual core and it didn't
even boot.  Well, that should solve that question.  The second
machine, one on display at Sam's Club, might have been an HP, but I
didn't look on the side of the casing to see if the raised letters hp
were there, so I do not know.  It might have been, but the message was
the same.  

Now, the question about the software speech.  GRML comes with eflite
and flite.  It works with speakup, and here's how you do it.  

You might need some sighted assistance, the first time, but I don't
think you will if you can hear the drive spin.  

first step: put the disk in and start the machine.  The drive will
spin for a short time, then stop.  
Second step: When the drive finishes its first short spin, you need to
enterthis: 
grml swspeak
You need to be sure that you spell it right, or you will end up having
to reboot in order to try over.  
third step: Listen for the sound to come up.  It will not be loud,
because GRML only brings up the mixer setting for the alsa pcm device
to 75%.  You will year the words: 
finished activating software speakup, just run swspeak when booting
finished
You will know that you are successfully into the speech interface when
this happens.  fourth step: When the boot sequence is almost finished,
you will hear the words: 

finished booting

Now, enter swspeak and wait a while to see if you can hear the system
come up talking.  You will need to do this: 
fifth step: enter this: 

aumix -w 100

This will bring the sound all the way up.  

Now, if all went well, you should be ready to do something with it.  

Now, I haven't gotten that far in reading the digest yet, but there
was something on there about connecting to the net using GRML.  You
can do it with w3m.  It takes quite a bit of space to explain how to
do it exactly, but I will be more than happy to work with you.  

Hope this helps. 

-- 
I use grml (http://grml.org/)

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* RE: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47
   ` Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47 Doug Smith
@    ` David Harvey
     ` GRML difficulties Glenn Ervin
     ` Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47 Albert E. Sten-Clanton
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Harvey @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Hi Doug,

Please email me off list to discuss this topic about connecting to the net
using GRML.

David Harvey

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Doug Smith
Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2007 1:17 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47

Ok, I will try to address two or three questions at one time.  I
accidentally set this subscription up the wrong way so that I get the
digest form of all the mails from the list, so I will have to change
it in a few minutes.  

Well, question 1: the machines I tried the GRML disk on to see if they
would boot.  The first one, a machine on display at a local Circuit
City store, was, indeed, an HP. It booted, then came the funny failure
message about the 128 samples.  Someone on here said he tried to boot
ubuntu in an hp machine with an amd 64 X 2 dual core and it didn't
even boot.  Well, that should solve that question.  The second
machine, one on display at Sam's Club, might have been an HP, but I
didn't look on the side of the casing to see if the raised letters hp
were there, so I do not know.  It might have been, but the message was
the same.  

Now, the question about the software speech.  GRML comes with eflite
and flite.  It works with speakup, and here's how you do it.  

You might need some sighted assistance, the first time, but I don't
think you will if you can hear the drive spin.  

first step: put the disk in and start the machine.  The drive will
spin for a short time, then stop.  
Second step: When the drive finishes its first short spin, you need to
enterthis: 
grml swspeak
You need to be sure that you spell it right, or you will end up having
to reboot in order to try over.  
third step: Listen for the sound to come up.  It will not be loud,
because GRML only brings up the mixer setting for the alsa pcm device
to 75%.  You will year the words: 
finished activating software speakup, just run swspeak when booting
finished
You will know that you are successfully into the speech interface when
this happens.  fourth step: When the boot sequence is almost finished,
you will hear the words: 

finished booting

Now, enter swspeak and wait a while to see if you can hear the system
come up talking.  You will need to do this: 
fifth step: enter this: 

aumix -w 100

This will bring the sound all the way up.  

Now, if all went well, you should be ready to do something with it.  

Now, I haven't gotten that far in reading the digest yet, but there
was something on there about connecting to the net using GRML.  You
can do it with w3m.  It takes quite a bit of space to explain how to
do it exactly, but I will be more than happy to work with you.  

Hope this helps. 

-- 
I use grml (http://grml.org/)

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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* GRML difficulties
   ` Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47 Doug Smith
     ` David Harvey
@    ` Glenn Ervin
     ` Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47 Albert E. Sten-Clanton
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello Doug and All,
I booted to GRML, and all went well, except that it seems that GRML could 
not detect my sound card on my laptop.
I had some sighted assistance come in, and I found that SwSpeak was running, 
and when I ran aumix -w 100, it did not make any difference.
I ran plain aumix and the settings came up, and again, with sighted 
assistance, I still could not hear anything, which gave me the confirmation 
that GRML must not have detected my sound card.
Is there a distro that will run from a CD, which is more forgiving of 
various soundcards?
BTW, I have a laptop which is an Averatec 2300 using a Realtek High 
Definition Audio sound card.
Thanks.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Smith" <bdsmith@oralux.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47

Ok, I will try to address two or three questions at one time.  I
accidentally set this subscription up the wrong way so that I get the
digest form of all the mails from the list, so I will have to change
it in a few minutes.

Now, the question about the software speech.  GRML comes with eflite
and flite.  It works with speakup, and here's how you do it.

You might need some sighted assistance, the first time, but I don't
think you will if you can hear the drive spin.

first step: put the disk in and start the machine.  The drive will
spin for a short time, then stop.
Second step: When the drive finishes its first short spin, you need to
enterthis:
grml swspeak
You need to be sure that you spell it right, or you will end up having
to reboot in order to try over.
third step: Listen for the sound to come up.  It will not be loud,
because GRML only brings up the mixer setting for the alsa pcm device
to 75%.  You will year the words:
finished activating software speakup, just run swspeak when booting
finished
You will know that you are successfully into the speech interface when
this happens.  fourth step: When the boot sequence is almost finished,
you will hear the words:

finished booting

Now, enter swspeak and wait a while to see if you can hear the system
come up talking.  You will need to do this:
fifth step: enter this:

aumix -w 100

This will bring the sound all the way up.

Now, if all went well, you should be ready to do something with it.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47
   ` Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47 Doug Smith
     ` David Harvey
     ` GRML difficulties Glenn Ervin
@    ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
       ` Michael Prokop
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Albert E. Sten-Clanton @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi, Doug!

I've tried repeatedly to use swspeak, but so far have failed.  My speakers apparently are connected, and their volume high enough that I should hear them if they're getting anything.  Under Fedora, Kudzu seems to find my sound card, though it, too, seems unable to give me software speech output when I try to run Emacspeak.  How would I determine whether the grml CD also finds it?  (Ordinarily, I boot that up with my tripletalk usb.)

Any other directions in which you can point me for possible answers?  I once did have software speech (damned lousy though it was), since I used Debian 3.0, I think, for a few months.  I therefore doubt it's a bad card, and figure I must be missing something.

Thanks!

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Smith" <bdsmith@oralux.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47


> Ok, I will try to address two or three questions at one time.  I
> accidentally set this subscription up the wrong way so that I get the
> digest form of all the mails from the list, so I will have to change
> it in a few minutes.  
> 
> Well, question 1: the machines I tried the GRML disk on to see if they
> would boot.  The first one, a machine on display at a local Circuit
> City store, was, indeed, an HP. It booted, then came the funny failure
> message about the 128 samples.  Someone on here said he tried to boot
> ubuntu in an hp machine with an amd 64 X 2 dual core and it didn't
> even boot.  Well, that should solve that question.  The second
> machine, one on display at Sam's Club, might have been an HP, but I
> didn't look on the side of the casing to see if the raised letters hp
> were there, so I do not know.  It might have been, but the message was
> the same.  
> 
> Now, the question about the software speech.  GRML comes with eflite
> and flite.  It works with speakup, and here's how you do it.  
> 
> You might need some sighted assistance, the first time, but I don't
> think you will if you can hear the drive spin.  
> 
> first step: put the disk in and start the machine.  The drive will
> spin for a short time, then stop.  
> Second step: When the drive finishes its first short spin, you need to
> enterthis: 
> grml swspeak
> You need to be sure that you spell it right, or you will end up having
> to reboot in order to try over.  
> third step: Listen for the sound to come up.  It will not be loud,
> because GRML only brings up the mixer setting for the alsa pcm device
> to 75%.  You will year the words: 
> finished activating software speakup, just run swspeak when booting
> finished
> You will know that you are successfully into the speech interface when
> this happens.  fourth step: When the boot sequence is almost finished,
> you will hear the words: 
> 
> finished booting
> 
> Now, enter swspeak and wait a while to see if you can hear the system
> come up talking.  You will need to do this: 
> fifth step: enter this: 
> 
> aumix -w 100
> 
> This will bring the sound all the way up.  
> 
> Now, if all went well, you should be ready to do something with it.  
> 
> Now, I haven't gotten that far in reading the digest yet, but there
> was something on there about connecting to the net using GRML.  You
> can do it with w3m.  It takes quite a bit of space to explain how to
> do it exactly, but I will be more than happy to work with you.  
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> I use grml (http://grml.org/)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
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> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.3 - Release Date: 2/19/2007
> 
>


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* Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47
     ` Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47 Albert E. Sten-Clanton
@      ` Michael Prokop
         ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Prokop @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

* Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote:

> I've tried repeatedly to use swspeak, but so far have failed.  My
> speakers apparently are connected, and their volume high enough
> that I should hear them if they're getting anything.  Under
> Fedora, Kudzu seems to find my sound card, though it, too, seems
> unable to give me software speech output when I try to run
> Emacspeak.  How would I determine whether the grml CD also finds
> it?  (Ordinarily, I boot that up with my tripletalk usb.)

You just want to know whether the soundcards basically works under
grml or not?  Boot grml and as soon as booting finished execute the
command soundtest which will play a short demo file then.
(Disclaimer: Sorry for my sucking pronunciation in the file but I'm
not a native speaker of english. ;))

-mika-
-- 
 ,'"`.         http://www.michael-prokop.at/
(  grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins
 `._,'         http://www.grml.org/



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* Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47
       ` Michael Prokop
@        ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
           ` Michael Prokop
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Albert E. Sten-Clanton @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Mika, thanks for telling me about the soundtest command.  It told me on my screen that the sound card seems to work, but there was no sound from the card.  My speakers are on, volume up.  I wonder if something got connected wrong, but I know too little to guess sensibly.  Again, though, thanks for the help to this point.

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Prokop" <mika@grml.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47


* Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote:

> I've tried repeatedly to use swspeak, but so far have failed.  My
> speakers apparently are connected, and their volume high enough
> that I should hear them if they're getting anything.  Under
> Fedora, Kudzu seems to find my sound card, though it, too, seems
> unable to give me software speech output when I try to run
> Emacspeak.  How would I determine whether the grml CD also finds
> it?  (Ordinarily, I boot that up with my tripletalk usb.)

You just want to know whether the soundcards basically works under
grml or not?  Boot grml and as soon as booting finished execute the
command soundtest which will play a short demo file then.
(Disclaimer: Sorry for my sucking pronunciation in the file but I'm
not a native speaker of english. ;))

-mika-
-- 
 ,'"`.         http://www.michael-prokop.at/
(  grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins
 `._,'         http://www.grml.org/


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47
         ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
@          ` Michael Prokop
             ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Prokop @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

* Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote:

> Mika, thanks for telling me about the soundtest command.  It told
> me on my screen that the sound card seems to work, but there was
> no sound from the card.  My speakers are on, volume up.  I wonder
> if something got connected wrong, but I know too little to guess
> sensibly.  Again, though, thanks for the help to this point.

If soundtest reports "It looks like sound works for you. :-)" it's
very probably that the mixer settings aren't ok. Check output of
'aumix -q' (compare with another, working system for example) and
whether 'amixer set Front unmute 1; amixer set Front 75%' helps.

-mika-
-- 
 ,'"`.         http://www.michael-prokop.at/
(  grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins
 `._,'         http://www.grml.org/



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* Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47
           ` Michael Prokop
@            ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Albert E. Sten-Clanton @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi, Mika!  Just thought I'd let you know that I got speech from the sound card after a friend connected it to a different port.  I still had trouble getting software speech to work right, but I think it's now working properly.  

For anyone, is there a way to speed up the software speech beyond the range of the speakup volume control?  At rate 9, it's a lot slower than the speech from my TripleTalk.  Thanks!

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Prokop" <mika@grml.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup Digest, Vol 41, Issue 47

* Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote:

> Mika, thanks for telling me about the soundtest command.  It told
> me on my screen that the sound card seems to work, but there was
> no sound from the card.  My speakers are on, volume up.  I wonder
> if something got connected wrong, but I know too little to guess
> sensibly.  Again, though, thanks for the help to this point.

If soundtest reports "It looks like sound works for you. :-)" it's
very probably that the mixer settings aren't ok. Check output of
'aumix -q' (compare with another, working system for example) and
whether 'amixer set Front unmute 1; amixer set Front 75%' helps.

-mika-
-- 
 ,'"`.         http://www.michael-prokop.at/
(  grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins
 `._,'         http://www.grml.org/

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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