* Speakup and serial adapter cards @ Michael Whapples ` acollins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello, I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to serial adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial ports provided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested in the PCI-Express adapter cards. Michael Whapples ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards Speakup and serial adapter cards Michael Whapples @ ` acollins ` D. Curtis Willoughby 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: acollins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >Hello, >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to serial adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial ports p rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested in th e PCI-Express adapter cards. > >Michael Whapples >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` acollins @ ` D. Curtis Willoughby ` acollins ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: D. Curtis Willoughby @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup This is getting to be a big problem! I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for this one? Please! D. Curtis Willoughby > From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 > Envelope-to: postman@localhost > Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on > new-mail2.hypermall.com > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled > version=3.2.1 > X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > From: acollins@icsmail.net > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 > X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> > List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. > > >Hello, > >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to serial > adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial ports p > rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested in th > e PCI-Express adapter cards. > > > >Michael Whapples > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` D. Curtis Willoughby @ ` acollins ` D. Curtis Willoughby ` Michael Whapples ` John Heim 2 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: acollins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello Curt! This is Gene Collins. Part of the problem for Speakup is that each of the serial synthesizers are managed by a separate driver. They all use the standard irqs and addresses for ttyS0 and ttyS1. I think they even support ttys3 and ttys4. Since pci serial ports get assigned whatever irq and address is available at boot up, Speakup in it's current form has no way to know where to look. I think the same situation holds true for usb serial ports. So the question developers need to answer is how to poll the system for the existence of any kind of serial port, before polling the list of ports for a synth matching the driver. Just a suggestion for a starting place for developers to look at. Gene Collins >This is getting to be a big problem! > >I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware >synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial >adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). >If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, >serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > >I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is >still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish >whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses >so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect >they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it >can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 >and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for >this one? Please! > >D. Curtis Willoughby > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> version=3.2.1 >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >> >> >Hello, >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to seri al >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial port s p >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested in th >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >> > >> >Michael Whapples >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` acollins @ ` D. Curtis Willoughby ` Hart Larry ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: D. Curtis Willoughby @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Gene and others: I think we need to separate the problem into two parts, because the two parts should have different priorities. The first part, and the one with the highest priority is to make speakup capable of driving any serial port connected to the system, regardless of whether it is a serial port on the mother board such as ttyS0, ttyS1, etc., or on a PCI expantion board, or on a PCI-E board, or on a USB to serial adapter. The second part of the problem, and the lower priority part is for speakup to recognize the serial port that is connected to the synthasizer automatically without human intervention. This is lower priority, because there are various interventions that could be used to tell speakup which port to use. Among them, there was once, and maybe still a boot parameter that can tell speakup which port to use, and it should also be possible to configure something in initrd to do it. D. Curtis Willoughby P.S. I am not quite sure what the actual interface between speakup and the kernel is, but on the surface it would seem that that interface should be the same regardless of which port is being used. If this is true, giving speakup the device filename, or maybe the major and minor device number should be all that it takes for speakup to drive any port. The figuring out automatically which port to use may be much harder. > From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Tue Jan 24 16:49:56 2012 > Envelope-to: postman@localhost > Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:49:56 -0700 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on > new-mail2.hypermall.com > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled > version=3.2.1 > X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > From: acollins@icsmail.net > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 > X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> > List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello Curt! This is Gene Collins. Part of the problem for Speakup is > that each of the serial synthesizers are managed by a separate driver. > They all use the standard irqs and addresses for ttyS0 and ttyS1. I > think they even support ttys3 and ttys4. Since pci serial ports get > assigned whatever irq and address is available at boot up, Speakup in > it's current form has no way to know where to look. I think the same > situation holds true for usb serial ports. So the question developers > need to answer is how to poll the system for the existence of any kind > of serial port, before polling the list of ports for a synth matching > the driver. > > Just a suggestion for a starting place for developers to look at. > > Gene Collins > > >This is getting to be a big problem! > > > >I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > >synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial > >adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > >If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, > >serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > > >I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > >still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish > >whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses > >so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect > >they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it > >can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 > >and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for > >this one? Please! > > > >D. Curtis Willoughby > > > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 > >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost > >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 > >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on > >> new-mail2.hypermall.com > >> X-Spam-Level: > >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled > >> version=3.2.1 > >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> From: acollins@icsmail.net > >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 > >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> > >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, > >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> > >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> > >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> > >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, > >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> > >> MIME-Version: 1.0 > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> > >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. > >> > >> >Hello, > >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to seri > al > >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial port > s p > >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested in > th > >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. > >> > > >> >Michael Whapples > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Speakup mailing list > >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` D. Curtis Willoughby @ ` Hart Larry ` Kelly Prescott ` acollins 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Hart Larry @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I wonder how Slackware seems to automaticly realize that I have a DecTalk? When my friend brought over a live-cd, at least the synth was talking, certainly not the case in Debian. Hart ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` D. Curtis Willoughby ` Hart Larry @ ` Kelly Prescott ` acollins 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Kelly Prescott @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' I think the problem is actually the way some of the synthesizers do speech indexing etc. Because they all do it slightly differently, you would almost have to abstract it some how. In principal, the basic i/o access shouldn't be to challenging, but the underlying command structures and control line adjustment etc for each synth would probably present some challenges to overcome. It does, however, seem like a fun and challenging project. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of D. Curtis Willoughby Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:17 PM To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards Gene and others: I think we need to separate the problem into two parts, because the two parts should have different priorities. The first part, and the one with the highest priority is to make speakup capable of driving any serial port connected to the system, regardless of whether it is a serial port on the mother board such as ttyS0, ttyS1, etc., or on a PCI expantion board, or on a PCI-E board, or on a USB to serial adapter. The second part of the problem, and the lower priority part is for speakup to recognize the serial port that is connected to the synthasizer automatically without human intervention. This is lower priority, because there are various interventions that could be used to tell speakup which port to use. Among them, there was once, and maybe still a boot parameter that can tell speakup which port to use, and it should also be possible to configure something in initrd to do it. D. Curtis Willoughby P.S. I am not quite sure what the actual interface between speakup and the kernel is, but on the surface it would seem that that interface should be the same regardless of which port is being used. If this is true, giving speakup the device filename, or maybe the major and minor device number should be all that it takes for speakup to drive any port. The figuring out automatically which port to use may be much harder. > From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Tue Jan 24 16:49:56 2012 > Envelope-to: postman@localhost > Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:49:56 -0700 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on > new-mail2.hypermall.com > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled > version=3.2.1 > X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > From: acollins@icsmail.net > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 > X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> > List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello Curt! This is Gene Collins. Part of the problem for Speakup is > that each of the serial synthesizers are managed by a separate driver. > They all use the standard irqs and addresses for ttyS0 and ttyS1. I > think they even support ttys3 and ttys4. Since pci serial ports get > assigned whatever irq and address is available at boot up, Speakup in > it's current form has no way to know where to look. I think the same > situation holds true for usb serial ports. So the question developers > need to answer is how to poll the system for the existence of any kind > of serial port, before polling the list of ports for a synth matching > the driver. > > Just a suggestion for a starting place for developers to look at. > > Gene Collins > > >This is getting to be a big problem! > > > >I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > >synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial adapter > >or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > >If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, serial > >hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > > >I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > >still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish whether > >the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses so they are > >treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect they cannot. Is it > >not possible to modify speakup so that it can use any serial port on > >the machine, rather than just ttyS0 and ttyS1? Would you developers > >please look at a solution for this one? Please! > > > >D. Curtis Willoughby > > > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 > >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost > >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 > >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on > >> new-mail2.hypermall.com > >> X-Spam-Level: > >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled > >> version=3.2.1 > >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> From: acollins@icsmail.net > >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 > >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> > >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, > >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> > >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> > >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> > >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, > >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> > >> MIME-Version: 1.0 > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> > >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. > >> > >> >Hello, > >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a > >> >USB to seri > al > >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use > >> serial port > s p > >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most > >> interested in > th > >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. > >> > > >> >Michael Whapples > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Speakup mailing list > >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` D. Curtis Willoughby ` Hart Larry ` Kelly Prescott @ ` acollins 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: acollins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Curt and all. I was thinking about something similar. I was thinging that speakup could read a user defined config file in to an array that would tell speakup the irq, address, and device name of each serial port on the system. Then Speakup could walk the list of user defined ports, to see if any of them has a synth attached to it. The Kernel folks would like Speakup to be able to use standard serial drivers which are already in the kernel, instead of having each hardware synth driver look for it's own ports, but for right now, I think that should be a separate issue. Getting each driver to read a simple text configuration file, and then walk the list of defined ports should be an easier fix that would solve the current issues for both usb and pci ports, without having to totally rewrite each synth driver. Gene >Gene and others: >I think we need to separate the problem into two parts, because >the two parts should have different priorities. The first part, >and the one with the highest priority is to make speakup capable of driving >any serial port connected to the system, regardless of whether it is a serial port >on the mother board such as ttyS0, ttyS1, etc., or on a PCI expantion >board, or on a PCI-E board, or on a USB to serial adapter. > >The second part of the problem, and the lower priority part is for >speakup to recognize the serial port that is connected to the >synthasizer automatically without human intervention. This is lower >priority, because there are various interventions that could be >used to tell speakup which port to use. Among them, there was once, >and maybe still a boot parameter that can tell speakup which port to use, >and it should also be possible to configure something in initrd >to do it. > >D. Curtis Willoughby > >P.S. I am not quite sure what the actual interface between speakup >and the kernel is, but on the surface it would seem that that >interface should be the same regardless of which port is being used. >If this is true, giving speakup the device filename, or maybe >the major and minor device number should be all that it takes >for speakup to drive any port. The figuring out automatically >which port to use may be much harder. > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Tue Jan 24 16:49:56 2012 >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:49:56 -0700 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> version=3.2.1 >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Hello Curt! This is Gene Collins. Part of the problem for Speakup is >> that each of the serial synthesizers are managed by a separate driver. >> They all use the standard irqs and addresses for ttyS0 and ttyS1. I >> think they even support ttys3 and ttys4. Since pci serial ports get >> assigned whatever irq and address is available at boot up, Speakup in >> it's current form has no way to know where to look. I think the same >> situation holds true for usb serial ports. So the question developers >> need to answer is how to poll the system for the existence of any kind >> of serial port, before polling the list of ports for a synth matching >> the driver. >> >> Just a suggestion for a starting place for developers to look at. >> >> Gene Collins >> >> >This is getting to be a big problem! >> > >> >I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware >> >synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial >> >adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). >> >If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, >> >serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. >> > >> >I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is >> >still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish >> >whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses >> >so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect >> >they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it >> >can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 >> >and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for >> >this one? Please! >> > >> >D. Curtis Willoughby >> > >> >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >> >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >> >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> >> X-Spam-Level: >> >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> >> version=3.2.1 >> >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> >> >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >> >> >> >> >Hello, >> >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to s eri >> al >> >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial p ort >> s p >> >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested in >> th >> >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >> >> > >> >> >Michael Whapples >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >Speakup mailing list >> >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Speakup mailing list >> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` D. Curtis Willoughby ` acollins @ ` Michael Whapples ` Trevor Astrope ` John Heim ` John Heim 2 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus system board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port controller built in (Windows shows a serial port device in device manager for COM1) but Asus didn't feel the need to either provide the actual port or the pin header so I could connect a port to the header should I need it. OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this limits the choice and so if you want certain features you may just have to choose a system with no serial port. So having support for a serial adapter (either USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. Michael Whapples -----Original Message----- From: D. Curtis Willoughby Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards This is getting to be a big problem! I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for this one? Please! D. Curtis Willoughby > From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 > Envelope-to: postman@localhost > Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on > new-mail2.hypermall.com > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled > version=3.2.1 > X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > From: acollins@icsmail.net > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 > X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> > List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, > <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. > > >Hello, > >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to > >serial > adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial > ports p > rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested > in th > e PCI-Express adapter cards. > > > >Michael Whapples > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` Michael Whapples @ ` Trevor Astrope ` covici ` John Heim ` John Heim 1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Trevor Astrope @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I bought an Asus board last June that had the header, but I had to get a custom cable built, as it was too far away for the standard cable. I also have a pcie card that won't work with speakup. It boots with the same irq and i/o address each time, which is not irq3 or 4. I tried changing the irq and i/o address in the speakup code, but speakup still won't work. I'm just curious, do the active developers use software speech? If so, this might explain why this issue isn't getting much attention. Trevor On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Michael Whapples wrote: > Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus system > board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port controller built > in (Windows shows a serial port device in device manager for COM1) but Asus > didn't feel the need to either provide the actual port or the pin header so I > could connect a port to the header should I need it. > > OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this limits the > choice and so if you want certain features you may just have to choose a > system with no serial port. So having support for a serial adapter (either > USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. > > Michael Whapples > -----Original Message----- From: D. Curtis Willoughby > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > > This is getting to be a big problem! > > I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial > adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, > serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish > whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses > so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect > they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it > can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 > and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for > this one? Please! > > D. Curtis Willoughby > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> version=3.2.1 >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >> >> >Hello, >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to >> >serial >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial >> ports p >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested >> in th >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >> > >> >Michael Whapples >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` Trevor Astrope @ ` covici ` John Heim 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I have Supermicro boards in my systems, and they both have serial ports, actually they have two headers. You do need a cable and it takes up an I/O slot in the back, but so what. Trevor Astrope <astrope@tabbweb.com> wrote: > I bought an Asus board last June that had the header, but I had to get > a custom cable built, as it was too far away for the standard cable. > > I also have a pcie card that won't work with speakup. It boots with > the same irq and i/o address each time, which is not irq3 or 4. I > tried changing the irq and i/o address in the speakup code, but > speakup still won't work. > > I'm just curious, do the active developers use software speech? If so, > this might explain why this issue isn't getting much attention. > > Trevor > > On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Michael Whapples wrote: > > > Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus > > system board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port > > controller built in (Windows shows a serial port device in device > > manager for COM1) but Asus didn't feel the need to either provide > > the actual port or the pin header so I could connect a port to the > > header should I need it. > > > > OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this > > limits the choice and so if you want certain features you may just > > have to choose a system with no serial port. So having support for a > > serial adapter (either USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. > > > > Michael Whapples > > -----Original Message----- From: D. Curtis Willoughby > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > > > > This is getting to be a big problem! > > > > I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > > synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial > > adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > > If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, > > serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > > > I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > > still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish > > whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses > > so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect > > they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it > > can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 > > and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for > > this one? Please! > > > > D. Curtis Willoughby > > > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 > >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost > >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 > >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on > >> new-mail2.hypermall.com > >> X-Spam-Level: > >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled > >> version=3.2.1 > >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> From: acollins@icsmail.net > >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 > >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> > >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, > >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> > >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> > >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> > >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, > >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> > >> MIME-Version: 1.0 > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> > >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. > >> > >> >Hello, > >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a > >> USB to >serial > >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use > >> serial ports p > >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most > >> interested in th > >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. > >> > > >> >Michael Whapples > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Speakup mailing list > >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` Trevor Astrope ` covici @ ` John Heim 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I had the same problem with my Asus motherboard but I made a hole in one of the covers for a drive bay in front. So now I have a serial port on the front of my computer. It might look a little funny but it works good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Astrope" <astrope@tabbweb.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >I bought an Asus board last June that had the header, but I had to get a >custom cable built, as it was too far away for the standard cable. > > I also have a pcie card that won't work with speakup. It boots with the > same irq and i/o address each time, which is not irq3 or 4. I tried > changing the irq and i/o address in the speakup code, but speakup still > won't work. > > I'm just curious, do the active developers use software speech? If so, > this might explain why this issue isn't getting much attention. > > Trevor > > On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Michael Whapples wrote: > >> Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus system >> board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port controller >> built in (Windows shows a serial port device in device manager for COM1) >> but Asus didn't feel the need to either provide the actual port or the >> pin header so I could connect a port to the header should I need it. >> >> OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this limits >> the choice and so if you want certain features you may just have to >> choose a system with no serial port. So having support for a serial >> adapter (either USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. >> >> Michael Whapples >> -----Original Message----- From: D. Curtis Willoughby >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM >> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> >> This is getting to be a big problem! >> >> I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware >> synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial >> adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). >> If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, >> serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. >> >> I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is >> still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish >> whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses >> so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect >> they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it >> can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 >> and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for >> this one? Please! >> >> D. Curtis Willoughby >> >>> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >>> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >>> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >>> new-mail2.hypermall.com >>> X-Spam-Level: >>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >>> version=3.2.1 >>> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> From: acollins@icsmail.net >>> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >>> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >>> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >>> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >>> List-Unsubscribe: >>> <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >>> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >>> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >>> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >>> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >>> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >>> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> >>> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >>> >>> >Hello, >>> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to >>> >serial >>> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial >>> ports p >>> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most >>> interested in th >>> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >>> > >>> >Michael Whapples >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >Speakup mailing list >>> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` Michael Whapples ` Trevor Astrope @ ` John Heim ` Michael Whapples 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Like I said in another message, the cable you need is about $4. One end has a female square plug that goes into the motherboard and the other has a DB9 connector attached to a plate that fits into the opening for an expansion slot. If you hadn't already said you have a serail port header on your Asus motherboard, I would have told you that you probably have it. I am not sure Asus makes a motherboard with no serial port at all. But most of them do not have the external DB9 connector. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus system > board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port controller > built in (Windows shows a serial port device in device manager for COM1) > but Asus didn't feel the need to either provide the actual port or the pin > header so I could connect a port to the header should I need it. > > OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this limits > the choice and so if you want certain features you may just have to choose > a system with no serial port. So having support for a serial adapter > (either USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. > > Michael Whapples > -----Original Message----- > From: D. Curtis Willoughby > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > > This is getting to be a big problem! > > I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial > adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, > serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish > whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses > so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect > they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it > can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 > and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for > this one? Please! > > D. Curtis Willoughby > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> version=3.2.1 >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >> >> >Hello, >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to >> >serial >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial >> ports p >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested >> in th >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >> > >> >Michael Whapples >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` John Heim @ ` Michael Whapples ` John Heim ` Glenn 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I must have been unfortunate in finding an Asus board with no serial port, checking the manual and just from poking about the board I cannot find a header. While I'm not one for changing computer parts frequently, I have to say I am not so impressed with this particular board and so if I do change it anytime soon I will pay particular attention to whether the next board has the serial port or header for one. Michael Whapples -----Original Message----- From: John Heim Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:23 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards Like I said in another message, the cable you need is about $4. One end has a female square plug that goes into the motherboard and the other has a DB9 connector attached to a plate that fits into the opening for an expansion slot. If you hadn't already said you have a serail port header on your Asus motherboard, I would have told you that you probably have it. I am not sure Asus makes a motherboard with no serial port at all. But most of them do not have the external DB9 connector. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus system > board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port controller > built in (Windows shows a serial port device in device manager for COM1) > but Asus didn't feel the need to either provide the actual port or the pin > header so I could connect a port to the header should I need it. > > OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this limits > the choice and so if you want certain features you may just have to choose > a system with no serial port. So having support for a serial adapter > (either USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. > > Michael Whapples > -----Original Message----- > From: D. Curtis Willoughby > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > > This is getting to be a big problem! > > I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial > adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, > serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish > whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses > so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect > they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it > can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 > and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for > this one? Please! > > D. Curtis Willoughby > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> version=3.2.1 >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >> >> >Hello, >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to >> >serial >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial >> ports p >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested >> in th >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >> > >> >Michael Whapples >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` Michael Whapples @ ` John Heim ` Glenn 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Oh, sorry, I misread your message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >I must have been unfortunate in finding an Asus board with no serial port, >checking the manual and just from poking about the board I cannot find a >header. While I'm not one for changing computer parts frequently, I have to >say I am not so impressed with this particular board and so if I do change >it anytime soon I will pay particular attention to whether the next board >has the serial port or header for one. > > Michael Whapples > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Heim > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:23 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > > Like I said in another message, the cable you need is about $4. One end > has > a female square plug that goes into the motherboard and the other has a > DB9 > connector attached to a plate that fits into the opening for an expansion > slot. > If you hadn't already said you have a serail port header on your Asus > motherboard, I would have told you that you probably have it. I am not > sure > Asus makes a motherboard with no serial port at all. But most of them do > not > have the external DB9 connector. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > > >> Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus system >> board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port controller >> built in (Windows shows a serial port device in device manager for COM1) >> but Asus didn't feel the need to either provide the actual port or the >> pin header so I could connect a port to the header should I need it. >> >> OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this limits >> the choice and so if you want certain features you may just have to >> choose a system with no serial port. So having support for a serial >> adapter (either USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. >> >> Michael Whapples >> -----Original Message----- >> From: D. Curtis Willoughby >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM >> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> >> This is getting to be a big problem! >> >> I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware >> synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial >> adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). >> If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, >> serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. >> >> I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is >> still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish >> whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses >> so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect >> they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it >> can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 >> and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for >> this one? Please! >> >> D. Curtis Willoughby >> >>> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >>> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >>> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >>> new-mail2.hypermall.com >>> X-Spam-Level: >>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >>> version=3.2.1 >>> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> From: acollins@icsmail.net >>> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >>> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >>> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >>> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >>> List-Unsubscribe: >>> <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >>> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >>> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >>> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >>> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >>> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >>> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> >>> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >>> >>> >Hello, >>> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to >>> >serial >>> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial >>> ports p >>> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most >>> interested in th >>> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >>> > >>> >Michael Whapples >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >Speakup mailing list >>> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` Michael Whapples ` John Heim @ ` Glenn 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Glenn @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Some mother boards don't have a header, that sticks up, sometimes they are a group of pins, and you can plug in a ribbon cable to it, and it is usually connected to a card slot cover and you screw it down like a bus card. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards I must have been unfortunate in finding an Asus board with no serial port, checking the manual and just from poking about the board I cannot find a header. While I'm not one for changing computer parts frequently, I have to say I am not so impressed with this particular board and so if I do change it anytime soon I will pay particular attention to whether the next board has the serial port or header for one. Michael Whapples -----Original Message----- From: John Heim Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:23 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards Like I said in another message, the cable you need is about $4. One end has a female square plug that goes into the motherboard and the other has a DB9 connector attached to a plate that fits into the opening for an expansion slot. If you hadn't already said you have a serail port header on your Asus motherboard, I would have told you that you probably have it. I am not sure Asus makes a motherboard with no serial port at all. But most of them do not have the external DB9 connector. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > Yes I agree this really is an issue. For some odd reason the Asus system > board I have recently bought seems to have the serial port controller > built in (Windows shows a serial port device in device manager for COM1) > but Asus didn't feel the need to either provide the actual port or the pin > header so I could connect a port to the header should I need it. > > OK there are a few boards still built with serial ports, but this limits > the choice and so if you want certain features you may just have to choose > a system with no serial port. So having support for a serial adapter > (either USB or PCI/PCIE) would be very useful. > > Michael Whapples > -----Original Message----- > From: D. Curtis Willoughby > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 AM > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > > This is getting to be a big problem! > > I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial > adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, > serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish > whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses > so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect > they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it > can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 > and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for > this one? Please! > > D. Curtis Willoughby > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> version=3.2.1 >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >> >> >Hello, >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to >> >serial >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial >> ports p >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested >> in th >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >> > >> >Michael Whapples >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards ` D. Curtis Willoughby ` acollins ` Michael Whapples @ ` John Heim 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I know you didn't ask this but have you checked if the mobo on your PC has a searial port header block? Many motherboards have a serial port header block but its not connected to anything. A header block is a set of pins on the mmotherboard. The one for a serial port is about a quarter inch by a half inch. What would that be? About 3mm by 12mm? Something like that. If your mother board has that header block, for about $4 you can buy a cable that allows you to connect the header block to the case. I don't know how to find out if that header block is there except to either check the specifications for the motherboard itself or just to look for it. If you know what to look for or to feel for, you can find it. If you don't know what to look for, it might be hard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Curtis Willoughby" <ka0vba@dimcom.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards > This is getting to be a big problem! > > I have a new computer without a serial port. To use a hardware > synthasizer like a Doubletalk LT I must use a USB to serial > adapter or a PCI-E card. This computer does not have PCI slot(s). > If this combination of "cannot do" restrictions is not fixed, > serial hardware synthesizers are doomed to become obsolete. > > I guess there are a few USB synthesizers, and software speach is > still well not wonderful. I have not been able to establish > whether the few PCI-E cards can manage IRQs and I/O addresses > so they are treated like internal serial ports, but I suspect > they cannot. Is it not possible to modify speakup so that it > can use any serial port on the machine, rather than just ttyS0 > and ttyS1? Would you developers please look at a solution for > this one? Please! > > D. Curtis Willoughby > >> From speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca Mon Jan 23 21:57:14 2012 >> Envelope-to: postman@localhost >> Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:14 -0700 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on >> new-mail2.hypermall.com >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled >> version=3.2.1 >> X-Original-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> From: acollins@icsmail.net >> Subject: Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards >> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 >> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 >> List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup.braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup> >> List-Post: <mailto:speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> List-Help: <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup>, >> <mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=subscribe> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Nope, Speakup in now way supports pci serial cards. >> >> >Hello, >> >I know that speakup cannot work with synths connected through a USB to >> >serial >> adapter, however I would like to confirm whether speakup can use serial >> ports p >> rovided by a PCI-express or PCI serial adapter card? I am most interested >> in th >> e PCI-Express adapter cards. >> > >> >Michael Whapples >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and serial adapter cards
@ pj
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From: pj @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Michael Whapples wrote:
> For some odd reason the Asus system board I have recently bought
> seems to have the serial port controller built in (Windows shows
> a serial port device in device manager for COM1) but Asus didn't
> feel the need to either provide the actual port or the pin header
That would be a very difficult quirk for a kernel module to
auto-detect. Perhaps there should be a module-parameter able
to specify a ttyS0-style, PCI, or USB port ?
Peter Billam
http://www.pjb.com.au pj@pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410
"Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman
from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949
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@ pj
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From: pj @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
D. Curtis Willoughby wrote:
> The second part of the problem, and the lower priority part,
> is for speakup to recognize the serial port that is connected
> to the synthesizer automatically without human intervention.
Do the various HW synths respond to something like the
old What-Are-You escape sequence \e[c or \e[0c like the
VT* terminals used to do ? I think some of them (but maybe
that was only the VT100 :-)), also responded to an \eZ ...
Im just dreaming, but if so it would allow speakup to
recognize the serial port that is connected to the synth,
and even to identify which driver it will need.
Peter Billam
http://www.pjb.com.au pj@pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410
"Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman
from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949
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