best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core is no longer being updated with speakup

best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core is no longer being updated with speakup

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I was just wondering what the best fully featured linux version is 
that is up to date and includes speakup now that fedora core is not 
working with speakup and all I have is the old fedora core 3 that I 
completely messed up so don't want to reinstall it as it is very old 
now and I want a newer set of updated applications and tools.  I would 
reinstall fedora core 3 but that version is rather old now and I don't 
really like the installer as it is not very speech friendly and 
keyboard friendly.  Will fedora ever be usable in it's latest version 
with speakup and not just in version 3 and 4 with the kernels on the 
speakup page?

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Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core is no longer being updated with speakup

[Gabriel Vega]

Have you tried ubuntu? its not speakup, but its the latest and greatest.


On Jul 23, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:

> Hi, I was just wondering what the best fully featured linux version is
> that is up to date and includes speakup now that fedora core is not
> working with speakup and all I have is the old fedora core 3 that I
> completely messed up so don't want to reinstall it as it is very old
> now and I want a newer set of updated applications and tools.  I would
> reinstall fedora core 3 but that version is rather old now and I don't
> really like the installer as it is not very speech friendly and
> keyboard friendly.  Will fedora ever be usable in it's latest version
> with speakup and not just in version 3 and 4 with the kernels on the
> speakup page?
>
> --  
> My web page is http://www.nickgawronski.com
>
> Email services by FreedomBox.  Surf the Net at the sound of your  
> voice.
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>
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RE: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora coreis no longer being updated with speakup

[Adrian Beech]

I guess this also begs the question if we'll ever see another FC build with
SpeakUp much like the FC 3 ISO's which we could download?

Cheers.
AB

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Gabriel Vega
Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 3:30 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora
coreis no longer being updated with speakup


Have you tried ubuntu? its not speakup, but its the latest and greatest.


On Jul 23, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:

> Hi, I was just wondering what the best fully featured linux version is 
> that is up to date and includes speakup now that fedora core is not 
> working with speakup and all I have is the old fedora core 3 that I 
> completely messed up so don't want to reinstall it as it is very old 
> now and I want a newer set of updated applications and tools.  I would 
> reinstall fedora core 3 but that version is rather old now and I don't 
> really like the installer as it is not very speech friendly and 
> keyboard friendly.  Will fedora ever be usable in it's latest version 
> with speakup and not just in version 3 and 4 with the kernels on the 
> speakup page?
>
> --
> My web page is http://www.nickgawronski.com
>
> Email services by FreedomBox.  Surf the Net at the sound of your
> voice.
> www.freedombox.info
>
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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RE: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core isno longer being updated with speakup

[Adrian Beech]

G'day,

Isn't there an FC5 kernel with SpeakUp compiled in that is downloable from
the SpeakUp site?  Going from memory you do the FC5 install thing, ummmm
somehow shrug, and then drop the kernel into the mix to get speech.  Janine
or someone else can you set me and others interested in this response
straight on this point... I'm presently downloading a VMWare FC5 virtual
appliance and I'm hoping to do just this as I've mentioned above.

Cheers.
AB

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski
Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 9:43 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core
isno longer being updated with speakup


Hi, I was just wondering what the best fully featured linux version is 
that is up to date and includes speakup now that fedora core is not 
working with speakup and all I have is the old fedora core 3 that I 
completely messed up so don't want to reinstall it as it is very old 
now and I want a newer set of updated applications and tools.  I would 
reinstall fedora core 3 but that version is rather old now and I don't 
really like the installer as it is not very speech friendly and 
keyboard friendly.  Will fedora ever be usable in it's latest version 
with speakup and not just in version 3 and 4 with the kernels on the 
speakup page?

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Email services by FreedomBox.  Surf the Net at the sound of your voice. 
www.freedombox.info

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Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core isno longer being updated with speakup

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Well, this email is coming from someone who is currently using a Fedora 
Core 5 system here with speakup enabled kernel. If you search the 
archives on this list from a couple of months ago you will see I was 
installing FC5 not too long ago. I ended up doing a telnet install and 
them used rpm to install the speakup enabled kernel for FC5. It works 
and I'm getting updates still.

* Adrian Beech <a.beech@bigpond.net.au> [060724 02:53]:
> Isn't there an FC5 kernel with SpeakUp compiled in that is downloable from
> the SpeakUp site?  Going from memory you do the FC5 install thing, ummmm
> somehow shrug, and then drop the kernel into the mix to get speech.  Janine
> or someone else can you set me and others interested in this response
> straight on this point... I'm presently downloading a VMWare FC5 virtual
> appliance and I'm hoping to do just this as I've mentioned above.


-- 
	"For I perceive that behind this seemingly unrelated sequence
of events, there lurks a singular, sinister attitude of mind."
	"Whose?"
	"MINE! HA-HA!"
Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc

Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora coreisno longer being updated with speakup

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, Why don't they make a fully featured speakup fedora core 5 installation 
discs like they did with fedora core 3?  Where can I get the fc5 kernel and 
if I want to download fedora core 5 DVD iso where can I get it?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul@asmodean.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora 
coreisno longer being updated with speakup


> Well, this email is coming from someone who is currently using a Fedora
> Core 5 system here with speakup enabled kernel. If you search the
> archives on this list from a couple of months ago you will see I was
> installing FC5 not too long ago. I ended up doing a telnet install and
> them used rpm to install the speakup enabled kernel for FC5. It works
> and I'm getting updates still.
>
> * Adrian Beech <a.beech@bigpond.net.au> [060724 02:53]:
>> Isn't there an FC5 kernel with SpeakUp compiled in that is downloable 
>> from
>> the SpeakUp site?  Going from memory you do the FC5 install thing, ummmm
>> somehow shrug, and then drop the kernel into the mix to get speech. 
>> Janine
>> or someone else can you set me and others interested in this response
>> straight on this point... I'm presently downloading a VMWare FC5 virtual
>> appliance and I'm hoping to do just this as I've mentioned above.
>
>
> -- 
> "For I perceive that behind this seemingly unrelated sequence
> of events, there lurks a singular, sinister attitude of mind."
> "Whose?"
> "MINE! HA-HA!"
> Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc
>
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Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core is no longer being updated with speakup

[Ralph W. Reid]

This depends on what you mean by 'best'.  Each distribution has its
own emphasis, although they pretty much all have some common
elements.  What are you looking for in your Linux system?  A well
balanced system that you can add things to?  A system with the largest
selection of precompiled programs?  A system to use for a few selected
servers?  A system you compile from scratch so that everything runs as
efficiently as possible on your given piece of hardware?  More details
about your system requirements/wants would be helpful.

My personal choice is Slackware, but you might want something
different.

Let us all know what you are looking for, and have a great day.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 07:43:16PM -0400, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> Hi, I was just wondering what the best fully featured linux version is 
> that is up to date and includes speakup now that fedora core is not 
> working with speakup and all I have is the old fedora core 3 that I 
> completely messed up so don't want to reinstall it as it is very old 
> now and I want a newer set of updated applications and tools.  I would 
> reinstall fedora core 3 but that version is rather old now and I don't 
> really like the installer as it is not very speech friendly and 
> keyboard friendly.  Will fedora ever be usable in it's latest version 
> with speakup and not just in version 3 and 4 with the kernels on the 
> speakup page?
> 
> -- 
> My web page is http://www.nickgawronski.com
> 
> Email services by FreedomBox.  Surf the Net at the sound of your voice. 
> www.freedombox.info
> 
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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TAN (x) = SIN (x) / COS (x)

Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora coreis no longer being updated with speakup

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, well, I would prefer fedora with speakup but mainly I want some linux 
version that has speakup in the installation so I don't need sited 
assistance to install it.  I really liked redhat now fedora but as it is not 
being updated with speakup any more sense version 3 I don't want to just 
reinstall 3 as it is very old now.  I like fedora rpm management.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralph W. Reid" <rreid@sunset.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora 
coreis no longer being updated with speakup


> This depends on what you mean by 'best'.  Each distribution has its
> own emphasis, although they pretty much all have some common
> elements.  What are you looking for in your Linux system?  A well
> balanced system that you can add things to?  A system with the largest
> selection of precompiled programs?  A system to use for a few selected
> servers?  A system you compile from scratch so that everything runs as
> efficiently as possible on your given piece of hardware?  More details
> about your system requirements/wants would be helpful.
>
> My personal choice is Slackware, but you might want something
> different.
>
> Let us all know what you are looking for, and have a great day.
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 07:43:16PM -0400, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> Hi, I was just wondering what the best fully featured linux version is
>> that is up to date and includes speakup now that fedora core is not
>> working with speakup and all I have is the old fedora core 3 that I
>> completely messed up so don't want to reinstall it as it is very old
>> now and I want a newer set of updated applications and tools.  I would
>> reinstall fedora core 3 but that version is rather old now and I don't
>> really like the installer as it is not very speech friendly and
>> keyboard friendly.  Will fedora ever be usable in it's latest version
>> with speakup and not just in version 3 and 4 with the kernels on the
>> speakup page?
>>
>> -- 
>> My web page is http://www.nickgawronski.com
>>
>> Email services by FreedomBox.  Surf the Net at the sound of your voice.
>> www.freedombox.info
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
> Ralph.  N6BNO.  Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
> rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
> ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light!
> TAN (x) = SIN (x) / COS (x)
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora coreis no longer being updated with speakup

[Adam Myrow]

Slackware has had Speakup-enabled kernels since version 8.0.  I would hold 
off, though as it looks like Slackware 11.0 will be out shortly judging 
from the ChangeLog for Slackware-current.

Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora coreis no longer being updated with speakup

[Raul A. Gallegos]

If you have another box you can install without sighted assistance via 
telnet install. This is what I did to get Fedora Core 5 up and running.

* Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com> [060724 15:52]:
> Hi, well, I would prefer fedora with speakup but mainly I want some linux 
> version that has speakup in the installation so I don't need sited 
> assistance to install it.  I really liked redhat now fedora but as it is not 
> being updated with speakup any more sense version 3 I don't want to just 
> reinstall 3 as it is very old now.  I like fedora rpm management.


-- 
"That boy's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver"
		-- Foghorn Leghorn
Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc

Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedoracoreis no longer being updated with speakup

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, but where can I download the DVD iso for fedora core 5 and how do I use 
the telnet install and get the ip address to telnet to using my laptop?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul@asmodean.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that 
fedoracoreis no longer being updated with speakup


> If you have another box you can install without sighted assistance via
> telnet install. This is what I did to get Fedora Core 5 up and running.
>
> * Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com> [060724 15:52]:
>> Hi, well, I would prefer fedora with speakup but mainly I want some linux
>> version that has speakup in the installation so I don't need sited
>> assistance to install it.  I really liked redhat now fedora but as it is 
>> not
>> being updated with speakup any more sense version 3 I don't want to just
>> reinstall 3 as it is very old now.  I like fedora rpm management.
>
>
> -- 
> "That boy's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver"
> -- Foghorn Leghorn
> Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core is no longer being updated with speakup

[Karen Lewellen]

Ralph and all,
What a richly intelligent way to pose this question.
With your guidance in mind, I am going to ask this too.
I am still seeking the hardware for my desired Linux system,  but do know 
some of what I want to accomplish.
I hear good things of gnome too, so if this is a better choice than 
speakup for my goals, that is fine too.
I would like a distribution with the largest number of precompiled 
programs, with an emphasis on managing online audio and video, the viewing 
/capturing, not necessarily the editing.  If sound editing has expanded 
here, say something at the audacity level if not audacity itself, this too 
would be welcome.
I am considering dsl, so a distribution with tools to support this if 
possible likewise would be welcome.
I would in turn get the hardware to fit the distribution requirements, and 
would be using a hardware synthesizer along the dec-talk lines.
What do ou say based on the above?
Thanks,
Karen

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Ralph W. Reid wrote:

> This depends on what you mean by 'best'.  Each distribution has its
> own emphasis, although they pretty much all have some common
> elements.  What are you looking for in your Linux system?  A well
> balanced system that you can add things to?  A system with the largest
> selection of precompiled programs?  A system to use for a few selected
> servers?  A system you compile from scratch so that everything runs as
> efficiently as possible on your given piece of hardware?  More details
> about your system requirements/wants would be helpful.
>
> My personal choice is Slackware, but you might want something
> different.
>
> Let us all know what you are looking for, and have a great day.
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 07:43:16PM -0400, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> Hi, I was just wondering what the best fully featured linux version is
>> that is up to date and includes speakup now that fedora core is not
>> working with speakup and all I have is the old fedora core 3 that I
>> completely messed up so don't want to reinstall it as it is very old
>> now and I want a newer set of updated applications and tools.  I would
>> reinstall fedora core 3 but that version is rather old now and I don't
>> really like the installer as it is not very speech friendly and
>> keyboard friendly.  Will fedora ever be usable in it's latest version
>> with speakup and not just in version 3 and 4 with the kernels on the
>> speakup page?
>>
>> --
>> My web page is http://www.nickgawronski.com
>>
>> Email services by FreedomBox.  Surf the Net at the sound of your voice.
>> www.freedombox.info
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
> Ralph.  N6BNO.  Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
> rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
> ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light!
> TAN (x) = SIN (x) / COS (x)
>
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core is no longer being updated with speakup

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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Hi Karen,
Based on your requirement for the most available precompiled packages, I would
personally recommend Debian.  The number of available packages is currently well
over 20,000 not including unofficial packages.  I am sure Debian will have
everything you need.  A speakup-modified version of Debian Sarge is available
from
http://people.debian.org/~shane

HTH,
Lorenzo
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You get along very well with everyone except animals and people.
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Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora coreis no longer being updated with speakup

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I have downloaded the netinst installation iso image for sarge.  I am 
using a dectalk express synthisizer.  Is this CD bootable and does Debian 
support the realtek family of network cards as that is what network card is 
in my mother board?  Is Debian's installation program easier then redhat and 
is it easy to not install X windows if I don't want it?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lorenzo Taylor" <lorenzo@taylor.homelinux.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora 
coreis no longer being updated with speakup


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> Hi Karen,
> Based on your requirement for the most available precompiled packages, I 
> would
> personally recommend Debian.  The number of available packages is 
> currently well
> over 20,000 not including unofficial packages.  I am sure Debian will have
> everything you need.  A speakup-modified version of Debian Sarge is 
> available
> from
> http://people.debian.org/~shane
>
> HTH,
> Lorenzo
> - -- 
> You get along very well with everyone except animals and people.
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Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora coreis no longer being updated with speakup

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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The netinst Sarge you have is bootable using the following command line at the
boot prompt:

speakup26 speakup_synth=dectlk

As far as I know, there is no time limit on the Speakup-modified Debian boot
prompt, so just type that command line when your CD stops spinning.

This version does support Realtek network cards, as that is the card in my
computer.

I personally found the Debian installer for Sarge to be a little easier to deal
with than Fedora; Your mileage may vary.

The easiest way to install Debian is to install the base system only and then
apt-get install anything you need that you don't have as you need it.  That way
if you don't want x you don't get it.  This is different from Fedora, where the
best course of action seemed to be to just install everything and then change
the runlevel later.

HTH,
Lorenzo
- -- 
Q:	Why is Poland just like the United States?
A:	In the United States you can't buy anything for zlotys and in
	Poland you can't either, while in the U.S. you can get whatever
	you want for dollars, just as you can in Poland.
		-- being told in Poland, 1987
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Re: best linux version to use that is up to date now that fedora core is no longer being updated with speakup

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Lorenzo,
ahem...20 thousand? grin.
Thanks I like what I have read here about  that distro, and will begin my 
doc reading to learn before I gather hardware and seek to install.  Talk 
about flexible!
Thanks,
Karen

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Lorenzo Taylor wrote:

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>
> Hi Karen,
> Based on your requirement for the most available precompiled packages, I would
> personally recommend Debian.  The number of available packages is currently well
> over 20,000 not including unofficial packages.  I am sure Debian will have
> everything you need.  A speakup-modified version of Debian Sarge is available
> from
> http://people.debian.org/~shane
>
> HTH,
> Lorenzo
> - --
> You get along very well with everyone except animals and people.
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