System-config-soundcard

System-config-soundcard

[Kenneth Lee]

Hello all, I'm trying to configure my soundcard and I'm not having much
luck.

The system is a Dell GX1 running Fedora FC2 and the audio adaptor is a
built-in Crystal brand.

I googled the speakup archives and read all the msgs related to soundcards.
Everything I read suggested using sndconfig, so I had to find it on the web
and install it. I used rpm to install and got a warning (which I already
forgot), but the program is there and runs.  When I run sndconfig it reports
that I have no sound mmodules installed in the kernal.  Well I don't know
anything about that or how to find out what modules are installed nor how to
install others.

Later I found a utility called "system.config-soundcard" but when I ran it
it said I need to run in an X window or set my DISPLAY variable.

So  I set my DISPLAY variable to "export DISPLAY=localhost:0" and now
system-config-soundcard just says I need to be running an X server.

I feel like I'm in an infinite loop! <g>

Thanks for any help

Ken -N5SWR
   

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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Alex Snow]

do you have alsa installed? if not you can get it from 
www.alsa-project.org. There probably are rpms for it but I don't know 
where you would get them.
On 
Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:39:49PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote:
> Hello all, I'm trying to configure my soundcard and I'm not having much
> luck.
> 
> The system is a Dell GX1 running Fedora FC2 and the audio adaptor is a
> built-in Crystal brand.
> 
> I googled the speakup archives and read all the msgs related to soundcards.
> Everything I read suggested using sndconfig, so I had to find it on the web
> and install it. I used rpm to install and got a warning (which I already
> forgot), but the program is there and runs.  When I run sndconfig it reports
> that I have no sound mmodules installed in the kernal.  Well I don't know
> anything about that or how to find out what modules are installed nor how to
> install others.
> 
> Later I found a utility called "system.config-soundcard" but when I ran it
> it said I need to run in an X window or set my DISPLAY variable.
> 
> So  I set my DISPLAY variable to "export DISPLAY=localhost:0" and now
> system-config-soundcard just says I need to be running an X server.
> 
> I feel like I'm in an infinite loop! <g>
> 
> Thanks for any help
> 
> Ken -N5SWR
>    
> 
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get a fully working kernel, you have to follow the steps below:
 - Walk around your computer widdershins 3 times, chanting "Linus is
   overworked, and he makes lousy patches, but we love him anyway". Get
   your spuouse to do this too for extra effect.  Children are optional.
 - Apply the patch included in this mail
 - Call your system "Super-67", and don't forget to unapply the patch
   before you later applying the official 1.3.68 patch.
 - reboot
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

Hard to say whether you've made things worse by going down the right
path, but your problem, at least originally, is probably nothing more
severe than raising the volume on your sound card with a mixer app like
alsamixer. It's muted by default.


Kenneth Lee writes:
> Hello all, I'm trying to configure my soundcard and I'm not having much
> luck.
> 
> The system is a Dell GX1 running Fedora FC2 and the audio adaptor is a
> built-in Crystal brand.
> 
> I googled the speakup archives and read all the msgs related to soundcards.
> Everything I read suggested using sndconfig, so I had to find it on the web
> and install it. I used rpm to install and got a warning (which I already
> forgot), but the program is there and runs.  When I run sndconfig it reports
> that I have no sound mmodules installed in the kernal.  Well I don't know
> anything about that or how to find out what modules are installed nor how to
> install others.
> 
> Later I found a utility called "system.config-soundcard" but when I ran it
> it said I need to run in an X window or set my DISPLAY variable.
> 
> So  I set my DISPLAY variable to "export DISPLAY=localhost:0" and now
> system-config-soundcard just says I need to be running an X server.
> 
> I feel like I'm in an infinite loop! <g>
> 
> Thanks for any help
> 
> Ken -N5SWR
>    
> 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

Not a smart question, Alex. alsa is the default with the 2.6 kernel,
which Fedora Core 2 is based on.

Alex Snow writes:
> do you have alsa installed? if not you can get it from 
> www.alsa-project.org. There probably are rpms for it but I don't know 
> where you would get them.
> On 
> Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:39:49PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote:
> > Hello all, I'm trying to configure my soundcard and I'm not having much
> > luck.
> > 
> > The system is a Dell GX1 running Fedora FC2 and the audio adaptor is a
> > built-in Crystal brand.
> > 
> > I googled the speakup archives and read all the msgs related to soundcards.
> > Everything I read suggested using sndconfig, so I had to find it on the web
> > and install it. I used rpm to install and got a warning (which I already
> > forgot), but the program is there and runs.  When I run sndconfig it reports
> > that I have no sound mmodules installed in the kernal.  Well I don't know
> > anything about that or how to find out what modules are installed nor how to
> > install others.
> > 
> > Later I found a utility called "system.config-soundcard" but when I ran it
> > it said I need to run in an X window or set my DISPLAY variable.
> > 
> > So  I set my DISPLAY variable to "export DISPLAY=localhost:0" and now
> > system-config-soundcard just says I need to be running an X server.
> > 
> > I feel like I'm in an infinite loop! <g>
> > 
> > Thanks for any help
> > 
> > Ken -N5SWR
> >    
> > 
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> -- 
> I forgot to mention an important fact in the 1.3.67 announcement. In order to 
> get a fully working kernel, you have to follow the steps below:
>  - Walk around your computer widdershins 3 times, chanting "Linus is
>    overworked, and he makes lousy patches, but we love him anyway". Get
>    your spuouse to do this too for extra effect.  Children are optional.
>  - Apply the patch included in this mail
>  - Call your system "Super-67", and don't forget to unapply the patch
>    before you later applying the official 1.3.68 patch.
>  - reboot
> 	-- Linus Torvalds, announcing another kernel patch
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

RE: System-config-soundcard

[Kenneth Lee]

My first thought when I started debugging this problem was the volume.  But
when I try: 
Aumix -v 90  

I get an error, something about device not found.  So I tried alsamixer with
no parameters and I get the error: 
"function snd_ctl_open failed for default. No such device".

I'd like to know what driver linux is using, but I don't know where to lookk
or how to change it.

Thanks, Ken
 
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:10 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


Hard to say whether you've made things worse by going down the right
path, but your problem, at least originally, is probably nothing more
severe than raising the volume on your sound card with a mixer app like
alsamixer. It's muted by default.


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Re: System-config-soundcard

[David Bruzos]

Hello Ken:
Actually I think your thinking is quite good.  However, the sndconfig utility works only with the 2.4.x kernels, because 
it looks for OSS kernel modules.  So, you will not be able to use the sndconfig utility to configure the sound on your 
FC2 system.  The FC2 system has a 2.6.x kernel, which comes with ALSA by default.  So, you will have to find alternative 
methods to setup your sound.

Firs, there are many of those crystal cards around.  Not all of them are supported by the kernel drivers.  You will 
have to determine which card you have.  I mean, model number, etc.  My laptop comes with a crystal sound card as well, 
but the kernel drivers for crystal cards do not work with it.  Luckily, there is an intel driver that works with my 
card.  If you are lucky, your card is the same, since my laptop is a Dell also.  The name of the kernel module is:

"snd_intel8x0"

So, you can try to load that driver into your running kernel by typing (as root):

# modprobe snd_intel8x0

If your system does not blow up, then you can try to put the lines below in your /etc/modprobe.conf file:

alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

It is only three lines, so make sure they don't get broken up by automatic wrapping of text by your editor.  If you use 
vi, you should be ok.

Then, reboot, turn your volume all the way up, and try to play something.  When you turn your volume up, make sure to 
do:
# aumix -w 100
aumix -v 100

This is so that your wave volume is up as well as your master volume...
If you still get errors from aumix, then you are back where you started... Sory!

Those drivers work with a lot of cards, so hopefully they work for yours.  Let me know what happends...

Don't forget to remove the lines from your /etc/modprobe.conf if the card still does not work...

David B.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:55:14PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote:
> My first thought when I started debugging this problem was the volume.  But
> when I try: 
> Aumix -v 90  
> 
> I get an error, something about device not found.  So I tried alsamixer with
> no parameters and I get the error: 
> "function snd_ctl_open failed for default. No such device".
> 
> I'd like to know what driver linux is using, but I don't know where to lookk
> or how to change it.
> 
> Thanks, Ken
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:10 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Hard to say whether you've made things worse by going down the right
> path, but your problem, at least originally, is probably nothing more
> severe than raising the volume on your sound card with a mixer app like
> alsamixer. It's muted by default.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
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>  
> 
> 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Alex Snow]

if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running 
lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa 
soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so 
download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find 
your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the 
soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use 
that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with 
isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but 
this works for me in slackware.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:24:50PM -0500, 
David Bruzos wrote:
> Hello Ken:
> Actually I think your thinking is quite good.  However, the sndconfig utility works only with the 2.4.x kernels, because 
> it looks for OSS kernel modules.  So, you will not be able to use the sndconfig utility to configure the sound on your 
> FC2 system.  The FC2 system has a 2.6.x kernel, which comes with ALSA by default.  So, you will have to find alternative 
> methods to setup your sound.
> 
> Firs, there are many of those crystal cards around.  Not all of them are supported by the kernel drivers.  You will 
> have to determine which card you have.  I mean, model number, etc.  My laptop comes with a crystal sound card as well, 
> but the kernel drivers for crystal cards do not work with it.  Luckily, there is an intel driver that works with my 
> card.  If you are lucky, your card is the same, since my laptop is a Dell also.  The name of the kernel module is:
> 
> "snd_intel8x0"
> 
> So, you can try to load that driver into your running kernel by typing (as root):
> 
> # modprobe snd_intel8x0
> 
> If your system does not blow up, then you can try to put the lines below in your /etc/modprobe.conf file:
> 
> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> 
> It is only three lines, so make sure they don't get broken up by automatic wrapping of text by your editor.  If you use 
> vi, you should be ok.
> 
> Then, reboot, turn your volume all the way up, and try to play something.  When you turn your volume up, make sure to 
> do:
> # aumix -w 100
> aumix -v 100
> 
> This is so that your wave volume is up as well as your master volume...
> If you still get errors from aumix, then you are back where you started... Sory!
> 
> Those drivers work with a lot of cards, so hopefully they work for yours.  Let me know what happends...
> 
> Don't forget to remove the lines from your /etc/modprobe.conf if the card still does not work...
> 
> David B.
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:55:14PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote:
> > My first thought when I started debugging this problem was the volume.  But
> > when I try: 
> > Aumix -v 90  
> > 
> > I get an error, something about device not found.  So I tried alsamixer with
> > no parameters and I get the error: 
> > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default. No such device".
> > 
> > I'd like to know what driver linux is using, but I don't know where to lookk
> > or how to change it.
> > 
> > Thanks, Ken
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:10 PM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> > 
> > 
> > Hard to say whether you've made things worse by going down the right
> > path, but your problem, at least originally, is probably nothing more
> > severe than raising the volume on your sound card with a mixer app like
> > alsamixer. It's muted by default.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
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> >  
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[David Bruzos]

Hello again:
Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.  Anyway, my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA, 
my driver might not work...


On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running 
> lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa 
> soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so 
> download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find 
> your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the 
> soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use 
> that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with 
> isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but 
> this works for me in slackware.
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:24:50PM -0500, 
> David Bruzos wrote:
> > Hello Ken:
> > Actually I think your thinking is quite good.  However, the sndconfig utility works only with the 2.4.x kernels, because 
> > it looks for OSS kernel modules.  So, you will not be able to use the sndconfig utility to configure the sound on your 
> > FC2 system.  The FC2 system has a 2.6.x kernel, which comes with ALSA by default.  So, you will have to find alternative 
> > methods to setup your sound.
> > 
> > Firs, there are many of those crystal cards around.  Not all of them are supported by the kernel drivers.  You will 
> > have to determine which card you have.  I mean, model number, etc.  My laptop comes with a crystal sound card as well, 
> > but the kernel drivers for crystal cards do not work with it.  Luckily, there is an intel driver that works with my 
> > card.  If you are lucky, your card is the same, since my laptop is a Dell also.  The name of the kernel module is:
> > 
> > "snd_intel8x0"
> > 
> > So, you can try to load that driver into your running kernel by typing (as root):
> > 
> > # modprobe snd_intel8x0
> > 
> > If your system does not blow up, then you can try to put the lines below in your /etc/modprobe.conf file:
> > 
> > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> > 
> > It is only three lines, so make sure they don't get broken up by automatic wrapping of text by your editor.  If you use 
> > vi, you should be ok.
> > 
> > Then, reboot, turn your volume all the way up, and try to play something.  When you turn your volume up, make sure to 
> > do:
> > # aumix -w 100
> > aumix -v 100
> > 
> > This is so that your wave volume is up as well as your master volume...
> > If you still get errors from aumix, then you are back where you started... Sory!
> > 
> > Those drivers work with a lot of cards, so hopefully they work for yours.  Let me know what happends...
> > 
> > Don't forget to remove the lines from your /etc/modprobe.conf if the card still does not work...
> > 
> > David B.
> > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:55:14PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote:
> > > My first thought when I started debugging this problem was the volume.  But
> > > when I try: 
> > > Aumix -v 90  
> > > 
> > > I get an error, something about device not found.  So I tried alsamixer with
> > > no parameters and I get the error: 
> > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default. No such device".
> > > 
> > > I'd like to know what driver linux is using, but I don't know where to lookk
> > > or how to change it.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Ken
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:10 PM
> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > > Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hard to say whether you've made things worse by going down the right
> > > path, but your problem, at least originally, is probably nothing more
> > > severe than raising the volume on your sound card with a mixer app like
> > > alsamixer. It's muted by default.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
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> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
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> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
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RE: System-config-soundcard

[Kenneth Lee]

Alex and David, thanks for getting me on the right track.  I installed
ISAPNPTools and the pnpdump utility reports that I do indeed have an ISA
adaptor.  It's a Crystal Audio CS1436b and I did find it on
alsa-project.org, but after reading how to get it working, I decided to try
my USB SoundBlaster and I am please to report the SB is working great.  I
also expect the sound quality from the external adaptor is much better than
the built-in one.  

I'm still having problems playing mp3's though.  I tried installing
trplayer, but it says I'm missing the libslang (slang) libraries.  The
trplayer web page has a link to get the slang libs, but I'm not sure what to
do with them....oh, but I did get RealPlayer v8 installed.

I also tried mplayer (all lower case), but it doesn't seem to recognize the
mp3 as a mp3.  It just spouts all this junk about caching so many bytes and
the hard drive is really working as if it were playing, but no sound.  I'll
have to try some other mp3 players.

So much to learn....so little time.

Thanks all for your help,

Ken -N5SWR
  

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of David Bruzos
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:08 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


Hello again:
Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.  Anyway,
my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA, 
my driver might not work...


On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running 
> lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa 
> soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so 
> download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find 
> your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the 
> soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use 
> that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with 
> isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but 
> this works for me in slackware.

-- 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

Ah, good. This is useful information.

Drivers that are currently loaded can be listed with lsmod. To find
active sound related ones you might do:

lsmod |grep snd

The loading of drivers is managed through the file /etc/modprobe.conf.
What is in that file?

Also, what does dmesg report that is related to sound?

Available alsa drivers and their associated sound cards can be looked up
on line at http://www.alsa-project.org. You might also have a file
called SOUNDCARDS and/or CARDS-STATUS, if you've independently
downloaded and unpacked an alsa-driver tarball. Try:

locate CARDS-STATUS



Kenneth Lee writes:
> My first thought when I started debugging this problem was the volume.  But
> when I try: 
> Aumix -v 90  
> 
> I get an error, something about device not found.  So I tried alsamixer with
> no parameters and I get the error: 
> "function snd_ctl_open failed for default. No such device".
> 
> I'd like to know what driver linux is using, but I don't know where to lookk
> or how to change it.
> 
> Thanks, Ken
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:10 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Hard to say whether you've made things worse by going down the right
> path, but your problem, at least originally, is probably nothing more
> severe than raising the volume on your sound card with a mixer app like
> alsamixer. It's muted by default.
> 
> 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

Suggest you get mplayer working for real audio, and for many other
formats. Best way, imho, is to get yum working with some additional
repositories. In particular, add the following "repos" (repositories):


[dag]
name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1 



[freshrpms]
name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms
baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpms
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1


With these two added, (separate files under /etc/yum.repos if your yum
is new enough--I'm sorry I don't recall your Fedora version), you can
then do things like:

yum install mplayer

I promise, it's by far the easiest way to deal with installs--especially
for applications like mplayer that literally have a dozen dependencies.



Kenneth Lee writes:
> Alex and David, thanks for getting me on the right track.  I installed
> ISAPNPTools and the pnpdump utility reports that I do indeed have an ISA
> adaptor.  It's a Crystal Audio CS1436b and I did find it on
> alsa-project.org, but after reading how to get it working, I decided to try
> my USB SoundBlaster and I am please to report the SB is working great.  I
> also expect the sound quality from the external adaptor is much better than
> the built-in one.  
> 
> I'm still having problems playing mp3's though.  I tried installing
> trplayer, but it says I'm missing the libslang (slang) libraries.  The
> trplayer web page has a link to get the slang libs, but I'm not sure what to
> do with them....oh, but I did get RealPlayer v8 installed.
> 
> I also tried mplayer (all lower case), but it doesn't seem to recognize the
> mp3 as a mp3.  It just spouts all this junk about caching so many bytes and
> the hard drive is really working as if it were playing, but no sound.  I'll
> have to try some other mp3 players.
> 
> So much to learn....so little time.
> 
> Thanks all for your help,
> 
> Ken -N5SWR
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of David Bruzos
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:08 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Hello again:
> Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.  Anyway,
> my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA, 
> my driver might not work...
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running 
> > lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa 
> > soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so 
> > download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find 
> > your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the 
> > soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use 
> > that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with 
> > isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but 
> > this works for me in slackware.
> 
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RE: System-config-soundcard

[Kenneth Lee]

Janina, thanks for these tips and your help getting everything running.  I
have used yum a few times and it really does make installs a breeze.  

I don't know if the repos's you mentioned are included in my yum setup, but
I'll add them if they are not.  I can't remember where I got my yum config
file, I found one out there in the www and just started using it.

Regards, Ken -N5SWR


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


Suggest you get mplayer working for real audio, and for many other
formats. Best way, imho, is to get yum working with some additional
repositories. In particular, add the following "repos" (repositories):


[dag]
name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1 



[freshrpms]
name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms
baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpm
s
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1


With these two added, (separate files under /etc/yum.repos if your yum
is new enough--I'm sorry I don't recall your Fedora version), you can
then do things like:

yum install mplayer

I promise, it's by far the easiest way to deal with installs--especially
for applications like mplayer that literally have a dozen dependencies.



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Re: System-config-soundcard

[David Bruzos]

Hi Ken:
I think you should try to get mplayer working.  MPlayer is the best, most powerful audio/video player I have ever seen.  
The repos that Janina has given you are very good.  Specially, the freshrpms.net repository has great mplayer rpms.  One 
thing though, the pre-compiled mplayer is going to be a little slower than if you compile mplayer your self.  However, 
it is a very good place to start.
Also, when you compile mplayer your self you can add one of the codec packages from the mplayer home page 
(www.mplayerhq.hu) that will add lots of functionality to your install.  With these codecs, you will be able to play 
windows media 9, quicktime 6, real audio 9, and a bunch  of the other more obscure formats out there.
Anyway, if you want a quick mp3/mp2/mp1 audio player, you can try to install a little program called "mpg321".  After 
you have your yum repos configured, you should be able to just do:
# yum install mpg321

MPG321 has no fw/rw/pause/etc controls, but it is great to play mp3's in the background and to convert to wave...

David B.



On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:42:38AM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote:
> Janina, thanks for these tips and your help getting everything running.  I
> have used yum a few times and it really does make installs a breeze.  
> 
> I don't know if the repos's you mentioned are included in my yum setup, but
> I'll add them if they are not.  I can't remember where I got my yum config
> file, I found one out there in the www and just started using it.
> 
> Regards, Ken -N5SWR
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:13 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Suggest you get mplayer working for real audio, and for many other
> formats. Best way, imho, is to get yum working with some additional
> repositories. In particular, add the following "repos" (repositories):
> 
> 
> [dag]
> name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
> baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1 
> 
> 
> 
> [freshrpms]
> name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms
> baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpm
> s
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1
> 
> 
> With these two added, (separate files under /etc/yum.repos if your yum
> is new enough--I'm sorry I don't recall your Fedora version), you can
> then do things like:
> 
> yum install mplayer
> 
> I promise, it's by far the easiest way to deal with installs--especially
> for applications like mplayer that literally have a dozen dependencies.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[hank]

what is the apt-get repositories for mplayer?
aim:
hanksmith5
msn messenger:
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


> Suggest you get mplayer working for real audio, and for many other
> formats. Best way, imho, is to get yum working with some additional
> repositories. In particular, add the following "repos" (repositories):
>
>
> [dag]
> name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
> baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1
>
>
>
> [freshrpms]
> name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms
>
baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpm
s
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1
>
>
> With these two added, (separate files under /etc/yum.repos if your yum
> is new enough--I'm sorry I don't recall your Fedora version), you can
> then do things like:
>
> yum install mplayer
>
> I promise, it's by far the easiest way to deal with installs--especially
> for applications like mplayer that literally have a dozen dependencies.
>
>
>
> Kenneth Lee writes:
> > Alex and David, thanks for getting me on the right track.  I installed
> > ISAPNPTools and the pnpdump utility reports that I do indeed have an ISA
> > adaptor.  It's a Crystal Audio CS1436b and I did find it on
> > alsa-project.org, but after reading how to get it working, I decided to
try
> > my USB SoundBlaster and I am please to report the SB is working great.
I
> > also expect the sound quality from the external adaptor is much better
than
> > the built-in one.
> >
> > I'm still having problems playing mp3's though.  I tried installing
> > trplayer, but it says I'm missing the libslang (slang) libraries.  The
> > trplayer web page has a link to get the slang libs, but I'm not sure
what to
> > do with them....oh, but I did get RealPlayer v8 installed.
> >
> > I also tried mplayer (all lower case), but it doesn't seem to recognize
the
> > mp3 as a mp3.  It just spouts all this junk about caching so many bytes
and
> > the hard drive is really working as if it were playing, but no sound.
I'll
> > have to try some other mp3 players.
> >
> > So much to learn....so little time.
> >
> > Thanks all for your help,
> >
> > Ken -N5SWR
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of David Bruzos
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:08 PM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> >
> >
> > Hello again:
> > Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.
Anyway,
> > my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA,
> > my driver might not work...
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running
> > > lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa
> > > soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so
> > > download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find
> > > your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the
> > > soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use
> > > that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with
> > > isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but
> > > this works for me in slackware.
> >
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RE: System-config-soundcard

[Kenneth Lee]

Great, the mplayer is working.  I checked my yum.conf and both the repos's
Janina mentioned were there, but commented out.  I gotta change my
punctuation level when doing this kind of work. <g> A couple of questions
though.  

Janina said these new repos would be in two different files, but I only have
the yum.conf file.  Do different flavors of linux configure yum differently?
I am using fc2.

Next, one of the comments in my yum.conf file said that removing the
comments from the freshrpms might cause conflicts with fedora.us and I may
need to comment out the fedora.us if I use freshrpms.  Should I do this?
   
Oh, what's the best setup when using speakup with vi?  When I type speakup
reads the status line.  I turned off speakup with the speakup-NumEnter but
this didn't seem the best solution.

Anyway, mplayer started working after I did "yum update mplayer".

Again, thanks to all.

Ken -N5SWR



-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of David Bruzos
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:05 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


Hi Ken:
I think you should try to get mplayer working.  MPlayer is the best, most
powerful audio/video player I have ever seen.  
The repos that Janina has given you are very good.  Specially, the
freshrpms.net repository has great mplayer rpms.  One 
thing though, the pre-compiled mplayer is going to be a little slower than
if you compile mplayer your self.  However, 
it is a very good place to start.
Also, when you compile mplayer your self you can add one of the codec
packages from the mplayer home page 
(www.mplayerhq.hu) that will add lots of functionality to your install.
With these codecs, you will be able to play 
windows media 9, quicktime 6, real audio 9, and a bunch  of the other more
obscure formats out there.
Anyway, if you want a quick mp3/mp2/mp1 audio player, you can try to install
a little program called "mpg321".  After 
you have your yum repos configured, you should be able to just do:
# yum install mpg321

MPG321 has no fw/rw/pause/etc controls, but it is great to play mp3's in the
background and to convert to wave...

David B.

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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Sean McMahon]

lsmod tells you all the modules currently installed in your kernel.  What distro
are you using?  If something needs x-windows to work, and you intend to use
speakup, get rid of it and find something which isn't x-windows dependent.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@cox.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:39 PM
Subject: System-config-soundcard


Hello all, I'm trying to configure my soundcard and I'm not having much
luck.

The system is a Dell GX1 running Fedora FC2 and the audio adaptor is a
built-in Crystal brand.

I googled the speakup archives and read all the msgs related to soundcards.
Everything I read suggested using sndconfig, so I had to find it on the web
and install it. I used rpm to install and got a warning (which I already
forgot), but the program is there and runs.  When I run sndconfig it reports
that I have no sound mmodules installed in the kernal.  Well I don't know
anything about that or how to find out what modules are installed nor how to
install others.

Later I found a utility called "system.config-soundcard" but when I ran it
it said I need to run in an X window or set my DISPLAY variable.

So  I set my DISPLAY variable to "export DISPLAY=localhost:0" and now
system-config-soundcard just says I need to be running an X server.

I feel like I'm in an infinite loop! <g>

Thanks for any help

Ken -N5SWR


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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Sean McMahon]

Pardon if this is not a fedora issue, but under debian, you have to be a member
of the audio group to make sound work..  btw, what kind of a soundblaster are
you using?  I'd like to get a usb soundblaster and would like to know what might
work.
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@cox.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: System-config-soundcard


Alex and David, thanks for getting me on the right track.  I installed
ISAPNPTools and the pnpdump utility reports that I do indeed have an ISA
adaptor.  It's a Crystal Audio CS1436b and I did find it on
alsa-project.org, but after reading how to get it working, I decided to try
my USB SoundBlaster and I am please to report the SB is working great.  I
also expect the sound quality from the external adaptor is much better than
the built-in one.

I'm still having problems playing mp3's though.  I tried installing
trplayer, but it says I'm missing the libslang (slang) libraries.  The
trplayer web page has a link to get the slang libs, but I'm not sure what to
do with them....oh, but I did get RealPlayer v8 installed.

I also tried mplayer (all lower case), but it doesn't seem to recognize the
mp3 as a mp3.  It just spouts all this junk about caching so many bytes and
the hard drive is really working as if it were playing, but no sound.  I'll
have to try some other mp3 players.

So much to learn....so little time.

Thanks all for your help,

Ken -N5SWR


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of David Bruzos
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:08 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


Hello again:
Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.  Anyway,
my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA,
my driver might not work...


On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running
> lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa
> soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so
> download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find
> your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the
> soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use
> that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with
> isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but
> this works for me in slackware.

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RE: System-config-soundcard

[Kenneth Lee]

Sean, I did "cat /proc/asound/cards" and it reports I am using a
SoundBlaster mp3+.  It's the cheapest thing I could find at the time, I
think it costs $40 or probably less now.  BTW, I'm using Fedora FC2.

Ken -N5SWR
 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


Pardon if this is not a fedora issue, but under debian, you have to be a
member
of the audio group to make sound work..  btw, what kind of a soundblaster
are
you using?  I'd like to get a usb soundblaster and would like to know what
might
work.
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@cox.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: System-config-soundcard


Alex and David, thanks for getting me on the right track.  I installed
ISAPNPTools and the pnpdump utility reports that I do indeed have an ISA
adaptor.  It's a Crystal Audio CS1436b and I did find it on
alsa-project.org, but after reading how to get it working, I decided to try
my USB SoundBlaster and I am please to report the SB is working great.  I
also expect the sound quality from the external adaptor is much better than
the built-in one.

I'm still having problems playing mp3's though.  I tried installing
trplayer, but it says I'm missing the libslang (slang) libraries.  The
trplayer web page has a link to get the slang libs, but I'm not sure what to
do with them....oh, but I did get RealPlayer v8 installed.

I also tried mplayer (all lower case), but it doesn't seem to recognize the
mp3 as a mp3.  It just spouts all this junk about caching so many bytes and
the hard drive is really working as if it were playing, but no sound.  I'll
have to try some other mp3 players.

So much to learn....so little time.

Thanks all for your help,

Ken -N5SWR


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of David Bruzos
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:08 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard


Hello again:
Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.  Anyway,
my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA,
my driver might not work...


On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running
> lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa
> soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so
> download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find
> your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the
> soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use
> that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with
> isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but
> this works for me in slackware.

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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Kenneth:

You might just want to upgrade to the latest release of yum first. Do
something like:

yum upgrade yum

You'll know your in the version that has a separate file for each
repository (the one based in XML syntax) if you see a directory called
/etc/yum.repos.d

PS: Be sure to edit the main configuration file, /etc/yum.conf, and add
an exclusion for the kernel--or one day Speakup will simply stop
speaking, and you'll be wondering what happened. A line something like:

exclude=kernel kernel-smp kernel-doc 

in the header of yum.conf should do the trick.

Kenneth Lee writes:
> Janina, thanks for these tips and your help getting everything running.  I
> have used yum a few times and it really does make installs a breeze.  
> 
> I don't know if the repos's you mentioned are included in my yum setup, but
> I'll add them if they are not.  I can't remember where I got my yum config
> file, I found one out there in the www and just started using it.
> 
> Regards, Ken -N5SWR
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:13 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Suggest you get mplayer working for real audio, and for many other
> formats. Best way, imho, is to get yum working with some additional
> repositories. In particular, add the following "repos" (repositories):
> 
> 
> [dag]
> name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
> baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1 
> 
> 
> 
> [freshrpms]
> name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms
> baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpm
> s
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1
> 
> 
> With these two added, (separate files under /etc/yum.repos if your yum
> is new enough--I'm sorry I don't recall your Fedora version), you can
> then do things like:
> 
> yum install mplayer
> 
> I promise, it's by far the easiest way to deal with installs--especially
> for applications like mplayer that literally have a dozen dependencies.
> 
> 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

Kenneth Lee writes:
> Janina said these new repos would be in two different files, but I only have
> the yum.conf file.  Do different flavors of linux configure yum differently?
> I am using fc2.

There was a change in the data format for yum a few versions back--about
a month ago. You have the olderversion. If you upgrade yum, the upgrade
process should do the conversion for you. I guess it makes it easier to
edit. For example, if a particular repository goes down, you just rename
the file and it doesn't get in the way.

One of the downsides of yum is that a repo that's off line will keep the
entire process from working. On the other hand, they've introduced a
round robin process, so the basic fedora repos should always be
available via some mirror somewhere.


> 
> Next, one of the comments in my yum.conf file said that removing the
> comments from the freshrpms might cause conflicts with fedora.us and I may
> need to comment out the fedora.us if I use freshrpms.  Should I do this?


Oh, you really do have an old version of yum. Absolutely upgrade. >    

Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

My .vimrc is on its way to you in a separate email.


Kenneth Lee writes:
> Great, the mplayer is working.  I checked my yum.conf and both the repos's
> Janina mentioned were there, but commented out.  I gotta change my
> punctuation level when doing this kind of work. <g> A couple of questions
> though.  
> 
> Janina said these new repos would be in two different files, but I only have
> the yum.conf file.  Do different flavors of linux configure yum differently?
> I am using fc2.
> 
> Next, one of the comments in my yum.conf file said that removing the
> comments from the freshrpms might cause conflicts with fedora.us and I may
> need to comment out the fedora.us if I use freshrpms.  Should I do this?
>    
> Oh, what's the best setup when using speakup with vi?  When I type speakup
> reads the status line.  I turned off speakup with the speakup-NumEnter but
> this didn't seem the best solution.
> 
> Anyway, mplayer started working after I did "yum update mplayer".
> 
> Again, thanks to all.
> 
> Ken -N5SWR
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of David Bruzos
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:05 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Hi Ken:
> I think you should try to get mplayer working.  MPlayer is the best, most
> powerful audio/video player I have ever seen.  
> The repos that Janina has given you are very good.  Specially, the
> freshrpms.net repository has great mplayer rpms.  One 
> thing though, the pre-compiled mplayer is going to be a little slower than
> if you compile mplayer your self.  However, 
> it is a very good place to start.
> Also, when you compile mplayer your self you can add one of the codec
> packages from the mplayer home page 
> (www.mplayerhq.hu) that will add lots of functionality to your install.
> With these codecs, you will be able to play 
> windows media 9, quicktime 6, real audio 9, and a bunch  of the other more
> obscure formats out there.
> Anyway, if you want a quick mp3/mp2/mp1 audio player, you can try to install
> a little program called "mpg321".  After 
> you have your yum repos configured, you should be able to just do:
> # yum install mpg321
> 
> MPG321 has no fw/rw/pause/etc controls, but it is great to play mp3's in the
> background and to convert to wave...
> 
> David B.
> 
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

On Fedora, apt and yum are both front ends for rpm. Generally, you'd
want to use one or the other.

You can find mplayer rpms at ftp.freshrpms.net.

hank writes:
> what is the apt-get repositories for mplayer?
> aim:
> hanksmith5
> msn messenger:
> hank@hanksmith.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:12 AM
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> > Suggest you get mplayer working for real audio, and for many other
> > formats. Best way, imho, is to get yum working with some additional
> > repositories. In particular, add the following "repos" (repositories):
> >
> >
> > [dag]
> > name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
> > baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag
> > enabled=1
> > gpgcheck=1
> >
> >
> >
> > [freshrpms]
> > name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms
> >
> baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpm
> s
> > enabled=1
> > gpgcheck=1
> >
> >
> > With these two added, (separate files under /etc/yum.repos if your yum
> > is new enough--I'm sorry I don't recall your Fedora version), you can
> > then do things like:
> >
> > yum install mplayer
> >
> > I promise, it's by far the easiest way to deal with installs--especially
> > for applications like mplayer that literally have a dozen dependencies.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kenneth Lee writes:
> > > Alex and David, thanks for getting me on the right track.  I installed
> > > ISAPNPTools and the pnpdump utility reports that I do indeed have an ISA
> > > adaptor.  It's a Crystal Audio CS1436b and I did find it on
> > > alsa-project.org, but after reading how to get it working, I decided to
> try
> > > my USB SoundBlaster and I am please to report the SB is working great.
> I
> > > also expect the sound quality from the external adaptor is much better
> than
> > > the built-in one.
> > >
> > > I'm still having problems playing mp3's though.  I tried installing
> > > trplayer, but it says I'm missing the libslang (slang) libraries.  The
> > > trplayer web page has a link to get the slang libs, but I'm not sure
> what to
> > > do with them....oh, but I did get RealPlayer v8 installed.
> > >
> > > I also tried mplayer (all lower case), but it doesn't seem to recognize
> the
> > > mp3 as a mp3.  It just spouts all this junk about caching so many bytes
> and
> > > the hard drive is really working as if it were playing, but no sound.
> I'll
> > > have to try some other mp3 players.
> > >
> > > So much to learn....so little time.
> > >
> > > Thanks all for your help,
> > >
> > > Ken -N5SWR
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > > On Behalf Of David Bruzos
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:08 PM
> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > > Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello again:
> > > Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.
> Anyway,
> > > my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA,
> > > my driver might not work...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running
> > > > lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa
> > > > soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so
> > > > download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find
> > > > your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the
> > > > soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use
> > > > that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with
> > > > isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but
> > > > this works for me in slackware.
> > >
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Re: System-config-soundcard

[Janina Sajka]

I have a ChainTech 7.1, which retails for $25 at New Egg, on the way.
I'll report how it works once I have it on line. It looks good on paper
and price is pretty good, too.


Kenneth Lee writes:
> Sean, I did "cat /proc/asound/cards" and it reports I am using a
> SoundBlaster mp3+.  It's the cheapest thing I could find at the time, I
> think it costs $40 or probably less now.  BTW, I'm using Fedora FC2.
> 
> Ken -N5SWR
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:09 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Pardon if this is not a fedora issue, but under debian, you have to be a
> member
> of the audio group to make sound work..  btw, what kind of a soundblaster
> are
> you using?  I'd like to get a usb soundblaster and would like to know what
> might
> work.
> Sean
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@cox.net>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:25 PM
> Subject: RE: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Alex and David, thanks for getting me on the right track.  I installed
> ISAPNPTools and the pnpdump utility reports that I do indeed have an ISA
> adaptor.  It's a Crystal Audio CS1436b and I did find it on
> alsa-project.org, but after reading how to get it working, I decided to try
> my USB SoundBlaster and I am please to report the SB is working great.  I
> also expect the sound quality from the external adaptor is much better than
> the built-in one.
> 
> I'm still having problems playing mp3's though.  I tried installing
> trplayer, but it says I'm missing the libslang (slang) libraries.  The
> trplayer web page has a link to get the slang libs, but I'm not sure what to
> do with them....oh, but I did get RealPlayer v8 installed.
> 
> I also tried mplayer (all lower case), but it doesn't seem to recognize the
> mp3 as a mp3.  It just spouts all this junk about caching so many bytes and
> the hard drive is really working as if it were playing, but no sound.  I'll
> have to try some other mp3 players.
> 
> So much to learn....so little time.
> 
> Thanks all for your help,
> 
> Ken -N5SWR
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of David Bruzos
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:08 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: System-config-soundcard
> 
> 
> Hello again:
> Alex, good thinking.  I forgot about the PCI and ISA differences.  Anyway,
> my card is a PCI, so if Ken's card is an ISA,
> my driver might not work...
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:33:15PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > if you want to find what  the exact model of your card is try running
> > lspci. if that doesn't show your card then it means you have an isa
> > soundcard, I think the onboard sound on the gx1 is isa anyway so
> > download the isapnptools package, install it, and use pnpdump to find
> > your card. then with that model go to alsa-project.org, find the
> > soundcards link, and there should be a dropdown box on that page. use
> > that to find the correct module. I'm not sure if Fedora comes with
> > isapnptools, or maybe there's a better way to do it then this, but
> > this works for me in slackware.
> 
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