* DoubleTalk stil going strong
@ .dan.
` Arthur Pirika
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From: .dan. @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Regarding dectalk and doubletalk speech, some of us prefer the latter. I
have used both and like the performance and speech of doubletalk over the
other. To modify the sound quality, but not the nature of the speech
itself, I have found that placing a folded thick cloth over the speaker on
the doubltalk lt. shapes the sound output in a more natural way, filtering
out some of the extrainious higher frequences above approximately4 kh.
This is the range above which the telephone cuts off speech also for best
intelligibility. The sound some find objectionable is in my experience a
matter of extrainious sounds created by the speaker in the synth. box, very
cheap junck, and not the text to speech chip itself. Using a combination
of cloth filtering and the sound controls of the speech software, one can
greatly modify the sound quality and intelligibility to one's preference.
I would imagine this approach works also with the internal doubletalk and
it's external speaker.
xv
ic|xc
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* RE: DoubleTalk stil going strong
DoubleTalk stil going strong .dan.
@ ` Arthur Pirika
` Sean McMahon
` nick G
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From: Arthur Pirika @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hi. That's a very interesting aproach. I guess also that putting the
synth through a mixer and doing some equalization could produce similar
results. When listening to ACBRadio's main menu, the doubletalk sounded
pretty good, actually, probably because of a combination of mp3
filtering, caused by lower sample rates, and mixing.
Arthur.
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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of .dan.
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 3:19 a.m.
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: DoubleTalk stil going strong
Regarding dectalk and doubletalk speech, some of us prefer the latter.
I have used both and like the performance and speech of doubletalk over
the other. To modify the sound quality, but not the nature of the
speech itself, I have found that placing a folded thick cloth over the
speaker on the doubltalk lt. shapes the sound output in a more natural
way, filtering out some of the extrainious higher frequences above
approximately4 kh. This is the range above which the telephone cuts off
speech also for best intelligibility. The sound some find objectionable
is in my experience a matter of extrainious sounds created by the
speaker in the synth. box, very cheap junck, and not the text to speech
chip itself. Using a combination of cloth filtering and the sound
controls of the speech software, one can greatly modify the sound
quality and intelligibility to one's preference. I would imagine this
approach works also with the internal doubletalk and it's external
speaker.
xv
ic|xc
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* Re: DoubleTalk stil going strong
` Arthur Pirika
@ ` Sean McMahon
` nick G
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From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Putting the synth through a mixer? How do you put an external synth or any
synth which isn't software speech through a mixer, something which I've only
thought of as working with your soundcard.
Sean
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From: "Arthur Pirika" <apirika@orcon.net.nz>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: DoubleTalk stil going strong
> Hi. That's a very interesting aproach. I guess also that putting the
> synth through a mixer and doing some equalization could produce similar
> results. When listening to ACBRadio's main menu, the doubletalk sounded
> pretty good, actually, probably because of a combination of mp3
> filtering, caused by lower sample rates, and mixing.
>
> Arthur.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of .dan.
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 3:19 a.m.
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: DoubleTalk stil going strong
>
>
>
> Regarding dectalk and doubletalk speech, some of us prefer the latter.
> I have used both and like the performance and speech of doubletalk over
> the other. To modify the sound quality, but not the nature of the
> speech itself, I have found that placing a folded thick cloth over the
> speaker on the doubltalk lt. shapes the sound output in a more natural
> way, filtering out some of the extrainious higher frequences above
> approximately4 kh. This is the range above which the telephone cuts off
> speech also for best intelligibility. The sound some find objectionable
> is in my experience a matter of extrainious sounds created by the
> speaker in the synth. box, very cheap junck, and not the text to speech
> chip itself. Using a combination of cloth filtering and the sound
> controls of the speech software, one can greatly modify the sound
> quality and intelligibility to one's preference. I would imagine this
> approach works also with the internal doubletalk and it's external
> speaker.
>
> xv
> ic|xc
>
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* Re: DoubleTalk stil going strong
` Arthur Pirika
` Sean McMahon
@ ` nick G
` Janina Sajka
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From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
However, when puting a Doubletalk threw a mixer, an older one, every time it
stops speaking, there is a pop.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Pirika" <apirika@orcon.net.nz>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: DoubleTalk stil going strong
> Hi. That's a very interesting aproach. I guess also that putting the
> synth through a mixer and doing some equalization could produce similar
> results. When listening to ACBRadio's main menu, the doubletalk sounded
> pretty good, actually, probably because of a combination of mp3
> filtering, caused by lower sample rates, and mixing.
>
> Arthur.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of .dan.
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 3:19 a.m.
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: DoubleTalk stil going strong
>
>
>
> Regarding dectalk and doubletalk speech, some of us prefer the latter.
> I have used both and like the performance and speech of doubletalk over
> the other. To modify the sound quality, but not the nature of the
> speech itself, I have found that placing a folded thick cloth over the
> speaker on the doubltalk lt. shapes the sound output in a more natural
> way, filtering out some of the extrainious higher frequences above
> approximately4 kh. This is the range above which the telephone cuts off
> speech also for best intelligibility. The sound some find objectionable
> is in my experience a matter of extrainious sounds created by the
> speaker in the synth. box, very cheap junck, and not the text to speech
> chip itself. Using a combination of cloth filtering and the sound
> controls of the speech software, one can greatly modify the sound
> quality and intelligibility to one's preference. I would imagine this
> approach works also with the internal doubletalk and it's external
> speaker.
>
> xv
> ic|xc
>
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* Re: DoubleTalk stil going strong
` nick G
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Glenn at home
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
nick G writes:
> However, when puting a Doubletalk threw a mixer, an older one, every time
> it stops speaking, there is a pop.
And, there's a pop every time it starts speaking. Very annoying.
I regret to say I've seen this same shoddy behavior with other synths as
well. Inexcusable, to my mind, as some simple filtering and gating could
alleviate the problem.
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* Re: DoubleTalk stil going strong
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Glenn at home
` Janina Sajka
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From: Glenn at home @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I wonder if that can be eliminated by either dropping the volume on the
DoubleTalk, or dropping the line-in volume on the sound card.
Glenn
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From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: DoubleTalk stil going strong
nick G writes:
> However, when puting a Doubletalk threw a mixer, an older one, every time
> it stops speaking, there is a pop.
And, there's a pop every time it starts speaking. Very annoying.
I regret to say I've seen this same shoddy behavior with other synths as
well. Inexcusable, to my mind, as some simple filtering and gating could
alleviate the problem.
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* Re: DoubleTalk stil going strong
` Glenn at home
@ ` Janina Sajka
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn at home, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Glenn at home writes:
> I wonder if that can be eliminated by either dropping the volume on the
> DoubleTalk, or dropping the line-in volume on the sound card.
If memory serves, I tried that. There just didn't seem to be any sweet
spot. I presume we don't ordinarily hear those pops with the speakers
they ship with Doubletalks because they're so cheap and slow to respond.
This is unfortunate, because a quality speaker and amp actually helps
the Doubletalk sound much better. But those pops make using better
reproduction technology untenable.
> Glenn
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:50 AM
> Subject: Re: DoubleTalk stil going strong
>
>
> nick G writes:
> > However, when puting a Doubletalk threw a mixer, an older one, every time
> > it stops speaking, there is a pop.
>
> And, there's a pop every time it starts speaking. Very annoying.
>
> I regret to say I've seen this same shoddy behavior with other synths as
> well. Inexcusable, to my mind, as some simple filtering and gating could
> alleviate the problem.
>
>
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