Re: A challenging question?

Re: A challenging question?

[Dan D.]

Iuse alpine with a gmail account with no problems recieving or sending. 
Pine would work in your case also.

The only real issue for someone is to link gmail to a local alpine mail 
account, its just a matter of simple configuration entries to do it.

If I were you I would set up an alpine filter to automatically grab those
messages of interesst into one mail folder.  Then the entire contents of
each message can be exported as individual plain texts with one command.

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Fine, but logging into  gmail is not the problem.  It is gathering in a
> fashion that reflects how these e-mails appear in a low graphics
> environment.  That and the volume.
> Whatever the program is, does it exist at shellworld?  I have no other
> access to Linux at all, save for my office shell with dreamhost.
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
>> tmux, not tmox.
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:42:30
>>>  From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
>>>  Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>  To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>  Subject: Re: A challenging question?
>>>
>>>  Hi folks,
>>>  I do wonder if we have tmox at shellworld.
>>>  Actually, the printer friendly  edition of emails at google will produce
>>>  fine text, and yes I can save the file with the p function.
>>>  The challenge is, since this is court evidence, I must gather  likely a
>>>  couple  hundred of them.
>>>  Something to petition the judge regarding.
>>>  Thanks for the ideas,
>>>  Kare
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Tim Chase wrote:
>>>
>>>>  On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>>  Asking just in case there is a simple tool  for this process.
>>>>>  I need to capture several emails from my gmail account.  It is
>>>>>  critical that the e-mails appear, as they do for me, not how they
>>>>>  might in standard view, i. e. with alt tags  visible for anyone.
>>>>>  Lynx, links, and e-links are the browsers I wish to use for this, I
>>>>>  would imagine the alt tag would be different even if I had access
>>>>>  to say Firefox.
>>>>
>>>>  Depending on the target audience, a couple ways come to mind:
>>>>
>>>>  1) In lynx-the-cat, use the "p" command to print to a file.  This is
>>>>  basically the same thing as doing a "lynx -dump" on a page.  In
>>>>  links-the-chain and elinks, you can use "File, Save formatted
>>>>  document" to get the same sort of results.
>>>>
>>>>  2) use your terminal emulator's copy/paste functionality to select
>>>>  the content of the gmail session in lynx/links/elinks session
>>>>
>>>>  3) fire up GNU screen or tmux, launch Lynx inside, browse to your
>>>>  email, and then use the "scrollback" functionality in screen/tmux to
>>>>  copy text off the screen into a buffer, then use the screen/tmux
>>>>  scrollback-paste functionality to dump it into a file.
>>>>
>>>>  4) use the "script" program to record the entire session with
>>>>  timings:
>>>>
>>>>   $ script --timing=gmail.timings gmail.script
>>>>   $ lynx https://gmail.com
>>>>   (do your thing)
>>>>   $ exit  # leaves the "script" recording session
>>>>
>>>>  this will give you two files "gmail.timings" and "gmail.script" which
>>>>  you can then play back with
>>>>
>>>>   $ scriptreplay gmail.timings gmail.script
>>>>
>>>>  Now on to comparing:
>>>>
>>>>  #1 is easiest choice with some of the best results for the use-case
>>>>  you are describing.
>>>>
>>>>  #2 & #3 are basically a screen capture of the text that you can dump
>>>>  into a text file, but don't include any coloration or playback (like
>>>>  #1).  Also, these usually end up being one screen at a time with
>>>>  full-screen curses applications like lynx/links/elinks, so if your
>>>>  text is more than one page, it's a bit annoying to capture, save,
>>>>  scroll, capture, save, repeat. But they do work for any terminal
>>>>  application, not just relying on browser-specific functionality.
>>>>
>>>>  #4 gives an exact replay of the options, but requires a terminal that
>>>>  understands it.  If you're playing back on the same terminal where
>>>>  you recorded, this has no issues.  But if you're trying to share it,
>>>>  there may be hurdles involved.  Also, while a quick test here
>>>>  suggests that script doesn't capture passwords in certain modes, it
>>>>  might if recording a lynx/links session, so I'd either only share it
>>>>  with someone you trust with your gmail password, or redact the file
>>>>  before sharing it.
>>>>
>>>>  And if you haven't had a chance to play with screen/tmux, they're
>>>>  incredibly powerful and well worth the investment of time (I
>>>>  personally prefer and recommend tmux, but both are substantially
>>>>  similar to the end user).
>>>>
>>>>  As usual, my verbose replies are likely overkill, but hopefully give
>>>>  you some options to explore. (grins)
>>>>
>>>>  -tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: A challenging question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi,
I have no issues  using gmail now.  since I am only either doing it from 
shellworld, or  in the case of my office, dreamhost,  my direction is fine 
laughs.
Was late last night when I wrote, will flesh out this one time use of 
alpine  as Larry  discusses.
Personally i do not care for alpine, but my use is based on dreamhost, 
who may  not fully  understand the program  themselves, smiles.
Hopefully  the person scamming this list looking for a date will not add 
to the amusement...I do not do girls.
kare


On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Tim Chase wrote:

> On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Actually, the printer friendly  edition of emails at google will
>> produce fine text, and yes I can save the file with the p function.
>> The challenge is, since this is court evidence, I must gather
>> likely a couple  hundred of them.
>
> Ah, that changes the game.  I'd go the route that Hart mentioned of
> connecting to Gmail via IMAP and slurping your mail locally which
> gives you the actual message body including all the headers.  From
> both a forensic perspective and a "gather them up to submit for
> evidence" perspective, having the actual messages (rather than a
> print-out) is the ideal.
>
> If you want bidirectionality (continuing to use Gmail while also
> having things local and keeping them in sync), I recommend something
> like "offlineimap" or "mbsync" to pull/sync the mail locally. Once
> it's local you can use a number of tools to manipulate the mail,
> whether Alpine or Mutt to read it interactively, or "notmuch" to
> index it for fast searches.  And since they're just text-files, they
> can be copied, linked, zipped up, and sent to whomever you need.
>
> -tim
>
>
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Re: A challenging question?

[Tim Chase]

On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Actually, the printer friendly  edition of emails at google will
> produce fine text, and yes I can save the file with the p function.
> The challenge is, since this is court evidence, I must gather
> likely a couple  hundred of them.

Ah, that changes the game.  I'd go the route that Hart mentioned of
connecting to Gmail via IMAP and slurping your mail locally which
gives you the actual message body including all the headers.  From
both a forensic perspective and a "gather them up to submit for
evidence" perspective, having the actual messages (rather than a
print-out) is the ideal.

If you want bidirectionality (continuing to use Gmail while also
having things local and keeping them in sync), I recommend something
like "offlineimap" or "mbsync" to pull/sync the mail locally. Once
it's local you can use a number of tools to manipulate the mail,
whether Alpine or Mutt to read it interactively, or "notmuch" to
index it for fast searches.  And since they're just text-files, they
can be copied, linked, zipped up, and sent to whomever you need.

-tim

Re: A challenging question?

[Jude DaShiell]

shellworld.net doesn't need to have mutt unless you need output saved in 
your shellworld.net account.  When I go out to google, it's direct from 
my computer to their mail server and that's over a web only connection 
too.  mutt is a command line application so anyone wanting high graphics 
is going to be seriously disappointed.  It all comes down in text.

Only reason I made that offer is mutt takes time to study how to 
configure it and this would give you a leg up.  if your office computer 
is windows, mutt won't work.

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:59:33
> From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: A challenging question?
> 
> Fine, but logging into  gmail is not the problem.  It is gathering in a 
> fashion that reflects how these e-mails appear in a low graphics environment. 
> That and the volume.
> Whatever the program is, does it exist at shellworld?  I have no other access 
> to Linux at all, save for my office shell with dreamhost.
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
>> tmux, not tmox.
>> 
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:42:30
>>>  From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
>>>  Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>  To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>  Subject: Re: A challenging question?
>>>
>>>  Hi folks,
>>>  I do wonder if we have tmox at shellworld.
>>>  Actually, the printer friendly  edition of emails at google will produce
>>>  fine text, and yes I can save the file with the p function.
>>>  The challenge is, since this is court evidence, I must gather  likely a
>>>  couple  hundred of them.
>>>  Something to petition the judge regarding.
>>>  Thanks for the ideas,
>>>  Kare
>>> 
>>>
>>>  On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Tim Chase wrote:
>>> 
>>> >  On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> > >  Asking just in case there is a simple tool  for this process.
>>> > >  I need to capture several emails from my gmail account.  It is
>>> > >  critical that the e-mails appear, as they do for me, not how they
>>> > >  might in standard view, i. e. with alt tags  visible for anyone.
>>> > >  Lynx, links, and e-links are the browsers I wish to use for this, I
>>> > >  would imagine the alt tag would be different even if I had access
>>> > >  to say Firefox.
>>> > >  Depending on the target audience, a couple ways come to mind:
>>> > >  1) In lynx-the-cat, use the "p" command to print to a file.  This is
>>> >  basically the same thing as doing a "lynx -dump" on a page.  In
>>> >  links-the-chain and elinks, you can use "File, Save formatted
>>> >  document" to get the same sort of results.
>>> > >  2) use your terminal emulator's copy/paste functionality to select
>>> >  the content of the gmail session in lynx/links/elinks session
>>> > >  3) fire up GNU screen or tmux, launch Lynx inside, browse to your
>>> >  email, and then use the "scrollback" functionality in screen/tmux to
>>> >  copy text off the screen into a buffer, then use the screen/tmux
>>> >  scrollback-paste functionality to dump it into a file.
>>> > >  4) use the "script" program to record the entire session with
>>> >  timings:
>>> > >   $ script --timing=gmail.timings gmail.script
>>> >   $ lynx https://gmail.com
>>> >   (do your thing)
>>> >   $ exit  # leaves the "script" recording session
>>> > >  this will give you two files "gmail.timings" and "gmail.script" which
>>> >  you can then play back with
>>> > >   $ scriptreplay gmail.timings gmail.script
>>> > >  Now on to comparing:
>>> > >  #1 is easiest choice with some of the best results for the use-case
>>> >  you are describing.
>>> > >  #2 & #3 are basically a screen capture of the text that you can dump
>>> >  into a text file, but don't include any coloration or playback (like
>>> >  #1).  Also, these usually end up being one screen at a time with
>>> >  full-screen curses applications like lynx/links/elinks, so if your
>>> >  text is more than one page, it's a bit annoying to capture, save,
>>> >  scroll, capture, save, repeat. But they do work for any terminal
>>> >  application, not just relying on browser-specific functionality.
>>> > >  #4 gives an exact replay of the options, but requires a terminal that
>>> >  understands it.  If you're playing back on the same terminal where
>>> >  you recorded, this has no issues.  But if you're trying to share it,
>>> >  there may be hurdles involved.  Also, while a quick test here
>>> >  suggests that script doesn't capture passwords in certain modes, it
>>> >  might if recording a lynx/links session, so I'd either only share it
>>> >  with someone you trust with your gmail password, or redact the file
>>> >  before sharing it.
>>> > >  And if you haven't had a chance to play with screen/tmux, they're
>>> >  incredibly powerful and well worth the investment of time (I
>>> >  personally prefer and recommend tmux, but both are substantially
>>> >  similar to the end user).
>>> > >  As usual, my verbose replies are likely overkill, but hopefully give
>>> >  you some options to explore. (grins)
>>> > >  -tim
>>> > > > > > > > >  _______________________________________________
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Re: A challenging question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Fine, but logging into  gmail is not the problem.  It is gathering in a 
fashion that reflects how these e-mails appear in a low graphics 
environment.  That and the volume.
Whatever the program is, does it exist at shellworld?  I have no other 
access to Linux at all, save for my office shell with dreamhost.


On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> tmux, not tmox.
>
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
>>  Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:42:30
>>  From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
>>  Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>  To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>  Subject: Re: A challenging question?
>>
>>  Hi folks,
>>  I do wonder if we have tmox at shellworld.
>>  Actually, the printer friendly  edition of emails at google will produce
>>  fine text, and yes I can save the file with the p function.
>>  The challenge is, since this is court evidence, I must gather  likely a
>>  couple  hundred of them.
>>  Something to petition the judge regarding.
>>  Thanks for the ideas,
>>  Kare
>> 
>>
>>  On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Tim Chase wrote:
>> 
>> >  On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > >  Asking just in case there is a simple tool  for this process.
>> > >  I need to capture several emails from my gmail account.  It is
>> > >  critical that the e-mails appear, as they do for me, not how they
>> > >  might in standard view, i. e. with alt tags  visible for anyone.
>> > >  Lynx, links, and e-links are the browsers I wish to use for this, I
>> > >  would imagine the alt tag would be different even if I had access
>> > >  to say Firefox.
>> > 
>> >  Depending on the target audience, a couple ways come to mind:
>> > 
>> >  1) In lynx-the-cat, use the "p" command to print to a file.  This is
>> >  basically the same thing as doing a "lynx -dump" on a page.  In
>> >  links-the-chain and elinks, you can use "File, Save formatted
>> >  document" to get the same sort of results.
>> > 
>> >  2) use your terminal emulator's copy/paste functionality to select
>> >  the content of the gmail session in lynx/links/elinks session
>> > 
>> >  3) fire up GNU screen or tmux, launch Lynx inside, browse to your
>> >  email, and then use the "scrollback" functionality in screen/tmux to
>> >  copy text off the screen into a buffer, then use the screen/tmux
>> >  scrollback-paste functionality to dump it into a file.
>> > 
>> >  4) use the "script" program to record the entire session with
>> >  timings:
>> > 
>> >   $ script --timing=gmail.timings gmail.script
>> >   $ lynx https://gmail.com
>> >   (do your thing)
>> >   $ exit  # leaves the "script" recording session
>> > 
>> >  this will give you two files "gmail.timings" and "gmail.script" which
>> >  you can then play back with
>> > 
>> >   $ scriptreplay gmail.timings gmail.script
>> > 
>> >  Now on to comparing:
>> > 
>> >  #1 is easiest choice with some of the best results for the use-case
>> >  you are describing.
>> > 
>> >  #2 & #3 are basically a screen capture of the text that you can dump
>> >  into a text file, but don't include any coloration or playback (like
>> >  #1).  Also, these usually end up being one screen at a time with
>> >  full-screen curses applications like lynx/links/elinks, so if your
>> >  text is more than one page, it's a bit annoying to capture, save,
>> >  scroll, capture, save, repeat. But they do work for any terminal
>> >  application, not just relying on browser-specific functionality.
>> > 
>> >  #4 gives an exact replay of the options, but requires a terminal that
>> >  understands it.  If you're playing back on the same terminal where
>> >  you recorded, this has no issues.  But if you're trying to share it,
>> >  there may be hurdles involved.  Also, while a quick test here
>> >  suggests that script doesn't capture passwords in certain modes, it
>> >  might if recording a lynx/links session, so I'd either only share it
>> >  with someone you trust with your gmail password, or redact the file
>> >  before sharing it.
>> > 
>> >  And if you haven't had a chance to play with screen/tmux, they're
>> >  incredibly powerful and well worth the investment of time (I
>> >  personally prefer and recommend tmux, but both are substantially
>> >  similar to the end user).
>> > 
>> >  As usual, my verbose replies are likely overkill, but hopefully give
>> >  you some options to explore. (grins)
>> > 
>> >  -tim
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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Re: A challenging question?

[Jude DaShiell]

tmux, not tmox.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:42:30
> From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: A challenging question?
> 
> Hi folks,
> I do wonder if we have tmox at shellworld.
> Actually, the printer friendly  edition of emails at google will produce fine 
> text, and yes I can save the file with the p function.
> The challenge is, since this is court evidence, I must gather  likely a 
> couple  hundred of them.
> Something to petition the judge regarding.
> Thanks for the ideas,
> Kare
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Tim Chase wrote:
>
>> On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> Asking just in case there is a simple tool  for this process.
>>> I need to capture several emails from my gmail account.  It is
>>> critical that the e-mails appear, as they do for me, not how they
>>> might in standard view, i. e. with alt tags  visible for anyone.
>>> Lynx, links, and e-links are the browsers I wish to use for this, I
>>> would imagine the alt tag would be different even if I had access
>>> to say Firefox.
>> 
>> Depending on the target audience, a couple ways come to mind:
>> 
>> 1) In lynx-the-cat, use the "p" command to print to a file.  This is
>> basically the same thing as doing a "lynx -dump" on a page.  In
>> links-the-chain and elinks, you can use "File, Save formatted
>> document" to get the same sort of results.
>> 
>> 2) use your terminal emulator's copy/paste functionality to select
>> the content of the gmail session in lynx/links/elinks session
>> 
>> 3) fire up GNU screen or tmux, launch Lynx inside, browse to your
>> email, and then use the "scrollback" functionality in screen/tmux to
>> copy text off the screen into a buffer, then use the screen/tmux
>> scrollback-paste functionality to dump it into a file.
>> 
>> 4) use the "script" program to record the entire session with
>> timings:
>>
>>  $ script --timing=gmail.timings gmail.script
>>  $ lynx https://gmail.com
>>  (do your thing)
>>  $ exit  # leaves the "script" recording session
>> 
>> this will give you two files "gmail.timings" and "gmail.script" which
>> you can then play back with
>>
>>  $ scriptreplay gmail.timings gmail.script
>> 
>> Now on to comparing:
>> 
>> #1 is easiest choice with some of the best results for the use-case
>> you are describing.
>> 
>> #2 & #3 are basically a screen capture of the text that you can dump
>> into a text file, but don't include any coloration or playback (like
>> #1).  Also, these usually end up being one screen at a time with
>> full-screen curses applications like lynx/links/elinks, so if your
>> text is more than one page, it's a bit annoying to capture, save,
>> scroll, capture, save, repeat. But they do work for any terminal
>> application, not just relying on browser-specific functionality.
>> 
>> #4 gives an exact replay of the options, but requires a terminal that
>> understands it.  If you're playing back on the same terminal where
>> you recorded, this has no issues.  But if you're trying to share it,
>> there may be hurdles involved.  Also, while a quick test here
>> suggests that script doesn't capture passwords in certain modes, it
>> might if recording a lynx/links session, so I'd either only share it
>> with someone you trust with your gmail password, or redact the file
>> before sharing it.
>> 
>> And if you haven't had a chance to play with screen/tmux, they're
>> incredibly powerful and well worth the investment of time (I
>> personally prefer and recommend tmux, but both are substantially
>> similar to the end user).
>> 
>> As usual, my verbose replies are likely overkill, but hopefully give
>> you some options to explore. (grins)
>> 
>> -tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: A challenging question?

[Jude DaShiell]

You know how I do gmail?  I use mutt to get and send gmail messages. 
It's possible using alpine but gmail password management with alpine can 
be a bit tricky especially for sending gmail.  I could post my .muttrc 
file without real credentials if that would be helpful too.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Hart Larry wrote:

> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:56:58
> From: Hart Larry <chime@hubert-humphrey.com>
> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: A challenging question?
> 
> Well Karen, I would think you could setup pine or alpine to read that 
> account. You could use the aggregate command from an index and save messages 
> by subject, author, or message number. You can then bounce, forward, or save 
> in files or other locations. If this is what you want, I would be more than 
> happy to help you configure it. Take care
> Hart
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Re: A challenging question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi folks,
I do wonder if we have tmox at shellworld.
Actually, the printer friendly  edition of emails at google will produce 
fine text, and yes I can save the file with the p function.
The challenge is, since this is court evidence, I must gather  likely a 
couple  hundred of them.
Something to petition the judge regarding.
Thanks for the ideas,
Kare


On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Tim Chase wrote:

> On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Asking just in case there is a simple tool  for this process.
>> I need to capture several emails from my gmail account.  It is
>> critical that the e-mails appear, as they do for me, not how they
>> might in standard view, i. e. with alt tags  visible for anyone.
>> Lynx, links, and e-links are the browsers I wish to use for this, I
>> would imagine the alt tag would be different even if I had access
>> to say Firefox.
>
> Depending on the target audience, a couple ways come to mind:
>
> 1) In lynx-the-cat, use the "p" command to print to a file.  This is
> basically the same thing as doing a "lynx -dump" on a page.  In
> links-the-chain and elinks, you can use "File, Save formatted
> document" to get the same sort of results.
>
> 2) use your terminal emulator's copy/paste functionality to select
> the content of the gmail session in lynx/links/elinks session
>
> 3) fire up GNU screen or tmux, launch Lynx inside, browse to your
> email, and then use the "scrollback" functionality in screen/tmux to
> copy text off the screen into a buffer, then use the screen/tmux
> scrollback-paste functionality to dump it into a file.
>
> 4) use the "script" program to record the entire session with
> timings:
>
>  $ script --timing=gmail.timings gmail.script
>  $ lynx https://gmail.com
>  (do your thing)
>  $ exit  # leaves the "script" recording session
>
> this will give you two files "gmail.timings" and "gmail.script" which
> you can then play back with
>
>  $ scriptreplay gmail.timings gmail.script
>
> Now on to comparing:
>
> #1 is easiest choice with some of the best results for the use-case
> you are describing.
>
> #2 & #3 are basically a screen capture of the text that you can dump
> into a text file, but don't include any coloration or playback (like
> #1).  Also, these usually end up being one screen at a time with
> full-screen curses applications like lynx/links/elinks, so if your
> text is more than one page, it's a bit annoying to capture, save,
> scroll, capture, save, repeat. But they do work for any terminal
> application, not just relying on browser-specific functionality.
>
> #4 gives an exact replay of the options, but requires a terminal that
> understands it.  If you're playing back on the same terminal where
> you recorded, this has no issues.  But if you're trying to share it,
> there may be hurdles involved.  Also, while a quick test here
> suggests that script doesn't capture passwords in certain modes, it
> might if recording a lynx/links session, so I'd either only share it
> with someone you trust with your gmail password, or redact the file
> before sharing it.
>
> And if you haven't had a chance to play with screen/tmux, they're
> incredibly powerful and well worth the investment of time (I
> personally prefer and recommend tmux, but both are substantially
> similar to the end user).
>
> As usual, my verbose replies are likely overkill, but hopefully give
> you some options to explore. (grins)
>
> -tim
>
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Re: A challenging question?

[Tim Chase]

On January 19, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Asking just in case there is a simple tool  for this process.
> I need to capture several emails from my gmail account.  It is
> critical that the e-mails appear, as they do for me, not how they
> might in standard view, i. e. with alt tags  visible for anyone.
> Lynx, links, and e-links are the browsers I wish to use for this, I
> would imagine the alt tag would be different even if I had access
> to say Firefox.

Depending on the target audience, a couple ways come to mind:

1) In lynx-the-cat, use the "p" command to print to a file.  This is
basically the same thing as doing a "lynx -dump" on a page.  In
links-the-chain and elinks, you can use "File, Save formatted
document" to get the same sort of results.

2) use your terminal emulator's copy/paste functionality to select
the content of the gmail session in lynx/links/elinks session

3) fire up GNU screen or tmux, launch Lynx inside, browse to your
email, and then use the "scrollback" functionality in screen/tmux to
copy text off the screen into a buffer, then use the screen/tmux
scrollback-paste functionality to dump it into a file.

4) use the "script" program to record the entire session with
timings:

  $ script --timing=gmail.timings gmail.script
  $ lynx https://gmail.com
  (do your thing)
  $ exit  # leaves the "script" recording session

this will give you two files "gmail.timings" and "gmail.script" which
you can then play back with

  $ scriptreplay gmail.timings gmail.script

Now on to comparing:

#1 is easiest choice with some of the best results for the use-case
you are describing.

#2 & #3 are basically a screen capture of the text that you can dump
into a text file, but don't include any coloration or playback (like
#1).  Also, these usually end up being one screen at a time with
full-screen curses applications like lynx/links/elinks, so if your
text is more than one page, it's a bit annoying to capture, save,
scroll, capture, save, repeat. But they do work for any terminal
application, not just relying on browser-specific functionality.

#4 gives an exact replay of the options, but requires a terminal that
understands it.  If you're playing back on the same terminal where
you recorded, this has no issues.  But if you're trying to share it,
there may be hurdles involved.  Also, while a quick test here
suggests that script doesn't capture passwords in certain modes, it
might if recording a lynx/links session, so I'd either only share it
with someone you trust with your gmail password, or redact the file
before sharing it.

And if you haven't had a chance to play with screen/tmux, they're
incredibly powerful and well worth the investment of time (I
personally prefer and recommend tmux, but both are substantially
similar to the end user).

As usual, my verbose replies are likely overkill, but hopefully give
you some options to explore. (grins)

-tim

Re: A challenging question?

[Hart Larry]

Well Karen, I would think you could setup pine or alpine to read that account. 
You could use the aggregate command from an index and save messages by subject, 
author, or message number. You can then bounce, forward, or save in files or 
other locations. If this is what you want, I would be more than happy to help 
you configure it. Take care
Hart

A challenging question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi folks,
Asking just in case there is a simple tool  for this process.
I need to capture several emails from my gmail account.  It is critical 
that the e-mails appear, as they do for me, not how they might in standard 
view, i. e. with alt tags  visible for anyone.
Lynx, links, and e-links are the browsers I wish to use for this, I would 
imagine the alt tag would be different even if I had access to say 
Firefox.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Kare