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Hi all,
As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my
work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows.
Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I
cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare Workstation
Player doesn't want to install under Slint.
Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting
up a VM using qemu in Slint?
Warm regards,
Brandt Steenkamp
Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work Help, I need a Windows VM for my work blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) I am interested in this topic as well. Might this be possible with any distribution of linux? > On Aug 10, 2021, at 5:55 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. > > > Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. > > > Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? > > > Warm regards, > > > Brandt Steenkamp > > > Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? John -- John J. Boyer Email: john.boyer at abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services that are available at no cost ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hey John, The answer is rather simple. I already have 2 machines on my desk, an M1 Mac and the Huawei I am using for Linux. I simply do not have the space to have another machine. Warm regards, Brandt On 8/10/21 2:34 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. > Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? > > John > -- Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` (2 more replies) ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 3 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi John, I don't think anyone here will mark you as a fool, certainly not me. Having one system par machine is certainly a trouble free solution. Another one is to have each system on a separate drive (one being possibly removable) Or dual boot, if there is enough space on the drive and the machine boots in EFI mode. I take this occasion to tell you that Slint that I maintain is free for people meeting all the conditions listed below: 1. Smart 2. Linux developer 3. Blind 4. Deaf 5. At least 2O years older that the Slint maintainer. Hint: I am 72 years old So, I'd be glad that you try Slint and give us a feedback. <smile> All you need to know should be in our handbook: https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html Please let us know also how to enhance Slint and its documentation. Warm regards, Didier -- Didier Spaier Slint maintainer Le 10/08/2021 ? 14:34, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. > Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? > > John ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Erratum: I meant at least 10 years older. > 5. At least 2O years older that the Slint maintainer. > Hint: I am 72 years old ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hello Didier, I'm 85. I tried dual boot, but I found that it was troublesome. I am running Debian. How would I try slint? John On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 04:16:57PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi John, > > I don't think anyone here will mark you as a fool, certainly not me. > > Having one system par machine is certainly a trouble free solution. > > Another one is to have each system on a separate drive (one being possibly > removable) > > Or dual boot, if there is enough space on the drive and the machine boots in > EFI mode. > > I take this occasion to tell you that Slint that I maintain is free for > people meeting all the conditions listed below: > 1. Smart > 2. Linux developer > 3. Blind > 4. Deaf > 5. At least 2O years older that the Slint maintainer. > Hint: I am 72 years old > > So, I'd be glad that you try Slint and give us a feedback. <smile> > > All you need to know should be in our handbook: > https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html > > Please let us know also how to enhance Slint and its documentation. > > Warm regards, > Didier > -- > Didier Spaier > Slint maintainer > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 14:34, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > > Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. > > Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? > > > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- John J. Boyer Email: john.boyer at abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services that are available at no cost ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hello John, the simplest way is to install Slint on an external, USB connected SSD (preferably) or hard disk. Then just plug-in the external drive before starting the installer and choose the Auto installation mode: the installer should detect the external drive and propose you to partition and format it, then install Slint on it. At end of installation, Slint will set up the dual boot for you. Under some conditions you can also free enough space on the drive or even have it freed by the Slint installer to install Slint, as indicated in: https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html#_install_slint see especially this chapter: https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html#make_room_for_Slint Then again Slint will set up the dual boot for you. It shouldn't be troublesome if you remember to run as root from Slint "update-grub" every time you install anew kernel in Debian. Or, you could install Slint in a virtual machine in Debian, in a similar fashion as I just posted to install Windows in a virtual machine in Slint. Or buy another machine to install Slint <smile> Warm regards, Didier Le 10/08/2021 ? 18:05, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Hello Didier, > > I'm 85. I tried dual boot, but I found that it was troublesome. I am running Debian. How would I try slint? > > John > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 04:16:57PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Hi John, >> >> I don't think anyone here will mark you as a fool, certainly not me. >> >> Having one system par machine is certainly a trouble free solution. >> >> Another one is to have each system on a separate drive (one being possibly >> removable) >> >> Or dual boot, if there is enough space on the drive and the machine boots in >> EFI mode. >> >> I take this occasion to tell you that Slint that I maintain is free for >> people meeting all the conditions listed below: >> 1. Smart >> 2. Linux developer >> 3. Blind >> 4. Deaf >> 5. At least 2O years older that the Slint maintainer. >> Hint: I am 72 years old >> >> So, I'd be glad that you try Slint and give us a feedback. <smile> >> >> All you need to know should be in our handbook: >> https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html >> >> Please let us know also how to enhance Slint and its documentation. >> >> Warm regards, >> Didier >> -- >> Didier Spaier >> Slint maintainer >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 14:34, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. >>> Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? >>> >>> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Yeah, I would never consider John a fool either. We met once at a CSUN, so I personally know better. But, Didier, I swear you don't look 72 in your photo! <smile> And, I hope that special offer for W3C Chairs is still open, as my old Macbook Air is coming to its end of life with Apple. What's my worst fear of yet another Linux distro? Yet another set of configuration options to grapple with. What's the most enticing aspect? All that excellent support from Professor Didier. These youngsters know what they're doing these days! <big grin> Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Hi John, > > I don't think anyone here will mark you as a fool, certainly not me. > > Having one system par machine is certainly a trouble free solution. > > Another one is to have each system on a separate drive (one being possibly > removable) > > Or dual boot, if there is enough space on the drive and the machine boots in > EFI mode. > > I take this occasion to tell you that Slint that I maintain is free for > people meeting all the conditions listed below: > 1. Smart > 2. Linux developer > 3. Blind > 4. Deaf > 5. At least 2O years older that the Slint maintainer. > Hint: I am 72 years old > > So, I'd be glad that you try Slint and give us a feedback. <smile> > > All you need to know should be in our handbook: > https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html > > Please let us know also how to enhance Slint and its documentation. > > Warm regards, > Didier > -- > Didier Spaier > Slint maintainer > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 14:34, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > > Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. > > Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? > > > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Janina, There is no expiration date for this offer <smile>. About the configuration options: feel free to send me your specs, including the origin and final destination of each sound stream, and your current config files so I can imagine how you could set this up in Slint. I just updated part of our a11y stack as you can see on top of this ChangeLog: https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/ChangeLog.txt I will update speech-dispatcher as soon as Samuel tags 11.0 and will also update the audio apps in the coming days. The HandBook also got a few updates: https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html I have been a teacher for young kids, alas a bad one. This began almost 51 years ago and lasted only 3 years, fortunately for the students... Best, Didier Le 30/08/2021 ? 10:15, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Yeah, I would never consider John a fool either. We met once at a CSUN, > so I personally know better. > > But, Didier, I swear you don't look 72 in your photo! <smile> > > And, I hope that special offer for W3C Chairs is still open, as my old > Macbook Air is coming to its end of life with Apple. > > What's my worst fear of yet another Linux distro? Yet another set of > configuration options to grapple with. > > What's the most enticing aspect? All that excellent support from > Professor Didier. These youngsters know what they're doing these days! > <big grin> > > Janina > > Linux for blind general discussion writes: >> Hi John, >> >> I don't think anyone here will mark you as a fool, certainly not me. >> >> Having one system par machine is certainly a trouble free solution. >> >> Another one is to have each system on a separate drive (one being possibly >> removable) >> >> Or dual boot, if there is enough space on the drive and the machine boots in >> EFI mode. >> >> I take this occasion to tell you that Slint that I maintain is free for >> people meeting all the conditions listed below: >> 1. Smart >> 2. Linux developer >> 3. Blind >> 4. Deaf >> 5. At least 2O years older that the Slint maintainer. >> Hint: I am 72 years old >> >> So, I'd be glad that you try Slint and give us a feedback. <smile> >> >> All you need to know should be in our handbook: >> https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html >> >> Please let us know also how to enhance Slint and its documentation. >> >> Warm regards, >> Didier >> -- >> Didier Spaier >> Slint maintainer >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 14:34, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. >>> Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? >>> >>> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) That is an idea I would not have thought of. Thanks. > On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote: > > Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. > Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? > > John > > -- > John J. Boyer > Email: john.boyer at abilitiessoft.org > website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org > Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. > Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA > Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services > that are available at no cost > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Mindful that I'm responding to a thread that's a few weeks old ... I solved this problem by using a 4 port KVM switch. That gives me one keyboard--though I needed sighted help to reconfigure the "Windows" and "Alt" keys so that my Mac Mini would see them correctly as "Option" and "Command" keys. Hint, they're recognized. They're just swapped, but I was unable to make the edit with just VoiceOver. I have one monitor, rarely used in these days of Covid, sitting at the opposite side of my desk because it's for sighted assistants who sometimes come by. I'm waiting for one now to deal with an inaccessible screen in Native Instruments Preferences on the Mac. I have two Linux machines in this KVM. One is an older tower unit under my desk. The other is a 2020 vintage System76 Mini. The Windows machine, sadly, is a laptop assigned to me by my employer. As it does VPN to the internal Amazon network, I keep it within reach and sometimes use it directly, not just via the KVM. I do not use my KVM to route audio, though it happens also to support that. Instead, I've an old Mackie 1202 audio mixer, and I need to expand to more than 12 channels Frankly.The KVM I have has four hardware switches. They don't lock, but they do work reliably, not that that prevents me from issuing NVDA commands to VoiceOver, or VoiceOver commands to Orca! <smile> Best, Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > That is an idea I would not have thought of. > Thanks. > > > On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote: > > > > Well, this will probably mark me as a fool, but I just use a Linux machine and a Windows machine connected by Samba. > > Computers are relatively inexensive now, so why bother with virtual machines? > > > > John > > > > -- > > John J. Boyer > > Email: john.boyer at abilitiessoft.org > > website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org > > Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. > > Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA > > Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services > > that are available at no cost > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list at redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work Help, I need a Windows VM for my work blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Brandt, I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu installed. Cheers, Didier Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Hi all, > > > As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my > work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. > > > Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I > cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare Workstation > Player doesn't want to install under Slint. > > > Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting > up a VM using qemu in Slint? > > > Warm regards, > > > Brandt Steenkamp > > > Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` (4 more replies) ` blinux-list 1 sibling, 5 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi again Brandt, The script is attached Intructions for use: 1. Create a directory ~/qemu Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: mkdir /home/brandt/qemu or just: mkdir ~/qemu As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt but anyway the output of this command will tell you: echo ~ 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu, renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso For instance her I did this: /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: sh windows.sh Then press Enter. Press Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. Notes: You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows directly in the VM. Cheers, Didier Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Hi Brandt, > > I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM > allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. > > It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu installed. > > Cheers, > > Didier > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi all, >> >> >> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >> >> >> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >> >> >> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting >> up a VM using qemu in Slint? >> >> >> Warm regards, >> >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> >> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` (3 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Didier, Doesn't look like the script got attached. Regards, Brandt On 8/10/21 3:59 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi again Brandt, > > The script is attached > > Intructions for use: > 1. Create a directory ~/qemu > Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: > mkdir /home/brandt/qemu > or just: > mkdir ~/qemu > As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> > In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt > but anyway the output of this command will tell you: > echo ~ > > 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu,? renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso > For instance her I did this: > > /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso > > 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere > Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: > sh windows.sh > Then press Enter. > Press? Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows > Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. > > Notes: > You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. > If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. > > After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows > directly in > the VM. > > Cheers, > Didier > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi Brandt, >> >> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >> >> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu >> installed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >>> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>> >>> >>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >>> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>> >>> >>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>> >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> >>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hy Brandt, Weird, it was attached. I attach it again to this email, that I also send you privately. It is named windows.sh Cheers, Didier Le 10/08/2021 ? 16:13, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Hi Didier, > > > Doesn't look like the script got attached. > > > Regards, > > > Brandt > > On 8/10/21 3:59 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Hi again Brandt, >> >> The script is attached >> >> Intructions for use: >> 1. Create a directory ~/qemu >> Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: >> mkdir /home/brandt/qemu >> or just: >> mkdir ~/qemu >> As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> >> In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt >> but anyway the output of this command will tell you: >> echo ~ >> >> 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu,? renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso >> For instance her I did this: >> >> /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso >> >> 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere >> Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: >> sh windows.sh >> Then press Enter. >> Press? Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows >> Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. >> >> Notes: >> You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. >> If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. >> >> After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows >> directly in >> the VM. >> >> Cheers, >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Hi Brandt, >>> >>> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >>> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >>> >>> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu >>> installed. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Didier >>> >>> >>> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >>>> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>>> >>>> >>>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >>>> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>>> >>>> >>>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>>> >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) ??? can you send privately please it didn't attach On 8/10/2021 7:25 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hy Brandt, > > Weird, it was attached. > > I attach it again to this email, that I also send you privately. > > It is named windows.sh > > Cheers, > Didier > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 16:13, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi Didier, >> >> >> Doesn't look like the script got attached. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Brandt >> >> On 8/10/21 3:59 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>> Hi again Brandt, >>> >>> The script is attached >>> >>> Intructions for use: >>> 1. Create a directory ~/qemu >>> Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: >>> mkdir /home/brandt/qemu >>> or just: >>> mkdir ~/qemu >>> As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> >>> In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt >>> but anyway the output of this command will tell you: >>> echo ~ >>> >>> 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu,? renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso >>> For instance her I did this: >>> >>> /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso >>> >>> 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere >>> Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: >>> sh windows.sh >>> Then press Enter. >>> Press? Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows >>> Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. >>> >>> Notes: >>> You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. >>> If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. >>> >>> After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows >>> directly in >>> the VM. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Didier >>> >>> >>> Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>>> Hi Brandt, >>>> >>>> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >>>> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >>>> >>>> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu >>>> installed. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Didier >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however >>>>> my work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. >>>>> I cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>>>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>>>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Warm regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list at redhat.com >>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` (2 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Didier, there was no script attached, maybe the listmanager removed ist :-(. Can you send me the script also please? I was also experimenting with Qemu and Windows during the last weeks and had a Win 10 pro running, but sometimes the VM was to slow to have a good working expirience :-(. I am using a Dell XPS 13 laptop with 16 GB memory and a Intell I7 cpu with 1,9 GHz. I was using the virtio drivers for Windows to speed up things as much as possible and I also deactivated as many unnecessary things in the Windows VM, but especialy with much disk I/O everything was not snappy enough to work :-(. When running Windows as the host system and using VMware to virtualize linux guests I do not have those problems. How are your and also others experiences with virtualized Windows systems on Linux hosts? Are the systems fast enough to work smoothly or do you also those kind of problems? What settings have you changed in the Windows guest to have a system which is fast enough and what Qemu parameters do you use especialy for the hardsisk image? Cheers and thanks, Schoepp On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 03:59:59PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >Hi again Brandt, > >The script is attached > >Intructions for use: >1. Create a directory ~/qemu >Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: >mkdir /home/brandt/qemu >or just: >mkdir ~/qemu >As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> >In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt >but anyway the output of this command will tell you: >echo ~ > >2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu, renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso >For instance her I did this: > >/data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso > >3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere >Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: >sh windows.sh >Then press Enter. >Press Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows >Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. > >Notes: >You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. >If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. > >After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows directly >in >the VM. > >Cheers, >Didier > > >Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi Brandt, >> >> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >> >> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu installed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > >> > As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >> > work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >> > >> > >> > Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >> > cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >> > Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >> > >> > >> > Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >> > setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >> > >> > >> > Warm regards, >> > >> > >> > Brandt Steenkamp >> > >> > >> > Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list at redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 1 sibling, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, I will but your email address is hiddee by the list manager. You are Christian Schoepplein, right? Didier -- didiertatslintdotfr Le 10/08/2021 ? 16:30, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Hi Didier, > > there was no script attached, maybe the listmanager removed ist :-(. Can you > send me the script also please? > > I was also experimenting with Qemu and Windows during the last weeks and had > a Win 10 pro running, but sometimes the VM was to slow to have a good > working expirience :-(. I am using a Dell XPS 13 laptop with 16 GB memory > and a Intell I7 cpu with 1,9 GHz. I was using the virtio drivers for Windows > to speed up things as much as possible and I also deactivated as many > unnecessary things in the Windows VM, but especialy with much disk I/O > everything was not snappy enough to work :-(. > > When running Windows as the host system and using VMware to virtualize linux > guests I do not have those problems. > > How are your and also others experiences with virtualized Windows systems on > Linux hosts? Are the systems fast enough to work smoothly or do you also > those kind of problems? What settings have you changed in the Windows guest > to have a system which is fast enough and what Qemu parameters do you use > especialy for the hardsisk image? > > Cheers and thanks, > > Schoepp > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 03:59:59PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Hi again Brandt, >> >> The script is attached >> >> Intructions for use: >> 1. Create a directory ~/qemu >> Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: >> mkdir /home/brandt/qemu >> or just: >> mkdir ~/qemu >> As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> >> In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt >> but anyway the output of this command will tell you: >> echo ~ >> >> 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu, renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso >> For instance her I did this: >> >> /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso >> >> 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere >> Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: >> sh windows.sh >> Then press Enter. >> Press Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows >> Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. >> >> Notes: >> You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. >> If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. >> >> After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows directly >> in >> the VM. >> >> Cheers, >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Hi Brandt, >>> >>> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >>> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >>> >>> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu installed. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Didier >>> >>> >>> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >>>> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>>> >>>> >>>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >>>> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>>> >>>> >>>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>>> >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. > >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Didier, On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 04:44:27PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >I will but your email address is hiddee by the list manager. > >You are Christian Schoepplein, right? Yes, I am Christian. You can reach me via chris at schoeppi.net . Thanks once more for your support and all the best, Schoepp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 1 sibling, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) see if vmware player is any better On 8/10/2021 7:30 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi Didier, > > there was no script attached, maybe the listmanager removed ist :-(. Can you > send me the script also please? > > I was also experimenting with Qemu and Windows during the last weeks and had > a Win 10 pro running, but sometimes the VM was to slow to have a good > working expirience :-(. I am using a Dell XPS 13 laptop with 16 GB memory > and a Intell I7 cpu with 1,9 GHz. I was using the virtio drivers for Windows > to speed up things as much as possible and I also deactivated as many > unnecessary things in the Windows VM, but especialy with much disk I/O > everything was not snappy enough to work :-(. > > When running Windows as the host system and using VMware to virtualize linux > guests I do not have those problems. > > How are your and also others experiences with virtualized Windows systems on > Linux hosts? Are the systems fast enough to work smoothly or do you also > those kind of problems? What settings have you changed in the Windows guest > to have a system which is fast enough and what Qemu parameters do you use > especialy for the hardsisk image? > > Cheers and thanks, > > Schoepp > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 03:59:59PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Hi again Brandt, >> >> The script is attached >> >> Intructions for use: >> 1. Create a directory ~/qemu >> Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: >> mkdir /home/brandt/qemu >> or just: >> mkdir ~/qemu >> As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> >> In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt >> but anyway the output of this command will tell you: >> echo ~ >> >> 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu, renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso >> For instance her I did this: >> >> /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso >> >> 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere >> Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: >> sh windows.sh >> Then press Enter. >> Press Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows >> Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. >> >> Notes: >> You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. >> If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. >> >> After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows directly >> in >> the VM. >> >> Cheers, >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Hi Brandt, >>> >>> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >>> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >>> >>> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu installed. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Didier >>> >>> >>> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >>>> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>>> >>>> >>>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >>>> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>>> >>>> >>>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>>> >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` Help, I need a Windows VM for my work blinux-list 4 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi all, as other folks could be interested, I post the content of the script inline below. Save it and name it windows.sh or whatever. #!/bin/sh # Make a directory /home/<username>/qemu if not already done mkdir -p ~/qemu # Change directory to ~/qemu cd ~/qemu # If the virtual hard disk doesn't exit yet, create it if [ ! -f windows.qcow2 ]; then qemu-img create -f qcow2 windows.qcow2 64G fi # If the file that stores the UEFI firmware variables doesn't exit, create it if [ ! -f edk2-i386-vars.fd ]; then cp /usr/share/qemu/edk2-i386-vars.fd ./ fi # if the Windows ISO is not yet in ~/qemu/, put it there if [ ! -f windows.iso ]; then echo "please store in ~/qemu the Windows ISO, renamed windows.iso then try again." exit fi # Start the virtual machine qemu-system-x86_64 \ -cpu host \ -enable-kvm \ -smp $(nproc) \ -m 4G \ -k us \ -boot menu=off \ -boot order=c,once=d \ -device intel-hda \ -device hda-duplex \ -display sdl \ -vga std \ -drive file=windows.qcow2,format=qcow2,media=disk \ -drive if=pflash,format=raw,readonly=on,file=/usr/share/qemu/edk2-x86_64-code.fd \ -drive if=pflash,format=raw,file=edk2-i386-vars.fd \ -cdrom windows.iso Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:59, Didier Spaier a ?crit?: > Hi again Brandt, > > The script is attached > > Intructions for use: > 1. Create a directory ~/qemu > Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: > mkdir /home/brandt/qemu > or just: > mkdir ~/qemu > As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> > In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt > but anyway the output of this command will tell you: > echo ~ > > 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu,? renamed ~/qemu/windows.iso > For instance her I did this: > > mv /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso ~/qemu/windows.iso > > 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere > Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: > sh windows.sh > Then press Enter. > Press? Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows > Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. > > Notes: > You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. > If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. > > After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows > directly in > the VM. > > Cheers, > Didier > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi Brandt, >> >> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >> >> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu >> installed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >>> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>> >>> >>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >>> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>> >>> >>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>> >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> >>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` I can't answer to someone anonymous (was: Re: Help, I need a Windows VM for my work) blinux-list ` Help, I need a Windows VM for my work blinux-list 4 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) how do you get control to the vm from the host? On 8/10/2021 6:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi again Brandt, > > The script is attached > > Intructions for use: > 1. Create a directory ~/qemu > Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: > mkdir /home/brandt/qemu > or just: > mkdir ~/qemu > As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> > In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt > but anyway the output of this command will tell you: > echo ~ > > 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu,? renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso > For instance her I did this: > > /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso > > 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere > Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: > sh windows.sh > Then press Enter. > Press? Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows > Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. > > Notes: > You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. > If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. > > After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows > directly in > the VM. > > Cheers, > Didier > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi Brandt, >> >> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >> >> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu >> installed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >>> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>> >>> >>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >>> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>> >>> >>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>> >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> >>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* I can't answer to someone anonymous (was: Re: Help, I need a Windows VM for my work) ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hello, Several messages have been sent to the list, quoted below, but I don't know by whom as this list hides the sender's name and email address. So, if you want an answer from me, please indicate your name and email address in the body of your message, as I am doing in this one knowing that (dot) is to be replaced by . and (at) by @ and/or send also your messages to my email address I below. I can't send privately something to someone whose I don't know the email address! Didier Didier Spaier Slint maintainer didier (at) slint (dot) fr Le 11/08/2021 ? 05:01, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > how do you get control to the vm from the host? > also I didn't see the script attached can you resend it to me please? > On 8/10/2021 6:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > can you send privately please it didn't attach ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* I can't answer to someone anonymous (was: Re: Help, I need a Windows VM for my work) ` I can't answer to someone anonymous (was: Re: Help, I need a Windows VM for my work) blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) its Hank Smith hank.smith966 at gmail.com On 8/10/2021 11:04 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hello, > > Several messages have been sent to the list, quoted below, but I don't > know by > whom as this list hides the sender's name and email address. > > So, if you want an answer from me, please indicate your name and email > address > in the body of your message, as I am doing in this one knowing that > (dot) is to > be replaced by . and (at) by @ and/or send also your messages to my email > address I below. > > I can't send privately something to someone whose I don't know the email > address! > > Didier > Didier Spaier > Slint maintainer > didier (at) slint (dot) fr > > Le 11/08/2021 ? 05:01, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> how do you get control to the vm from the host? > > > also I didn't see the script attached can you resend it to me please? > > On 8/10/2021 6:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > can you send privately please it didn't attach > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* I can't answer to someone anonymous (was: Re: Help, I need a Windows VM for my work) ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Kank, please find thje file attached. Cheers, Didier Le 11/08/2021 ? 08:25, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > its > > Hank Smith > > hank.smith966 at gmail.com > > > On 8/10/2021 11:04 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Several messages have been sent to the list, quoted below, but I don't >> know by >> whom as this list hides the sender's name and email address. >> >> So, if you want an answer from me, please indicate your name and email >> address >> in the body of your message, as I am doing in this one knowing that >> (dot) is to >> be replaced by . and (at) by @ and/or send also your messages to my email >> address I below. >> >> I can't send privately something to someone whose I don't know the email >> address! >> >> Didier >> Didier Spaier >> Slint maintainer >> didier (at) slint (dot) fr >> >> Le 11/08/2021 ? 05:01, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> how do you get control to the vm from the host? >> >> > also I didn't see the script attached can you resend it to me please? >> > On 8/10/2021 6:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> >> > can you send privately please it didn't attach >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* I can't answer to someone anonymous (was: Re: Help, I need a Windows VM for my work) ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) nothing came threw no attachment Hank On 8/11/2021 6:18 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi Kank, > > please find thje file attached. > > Cheers, > > Didier > > Le 11/08/2021 ? 08:25, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> its >> >> Hank Smith >> >> hank.smith966 at gmail.com >> >> >> On 8/10/2021 11:04 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Several messages have been sent to the list, quoted below, but I >>> don't know by >>> whom as this list hides the sender's name and email address. >>> >>> So, if you want an answer from me, please indicate your name and >>> email address >>> in the body of your message, as I am doing in this one knowing that >>> (dot) is to >>> be replaced by . and (at) by @ and/or send also your messages to my >>> email >>> address I below. >>> >>> I can't send privately something to someone whose I don't know the >>> email >>> address! >>> >>> Didier >>> Didier Spaier >>> Slint maintainer >>> didier (at) slint (dot) fr >>> >>> Le 11/08/2021 ? 05:01, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>>> how do you get control to the vm from the host? >>> >>> > also I didn't see the script attached can you resend it to me please? >>> > On 8/10/2021 6:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>> >>> > can you send privately please it didn't attach >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list at redhat.com >>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` (3 preceding siblings ...) ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 4 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) also I didn't see the script attached can you resend it to me please? On 8/10/2021 6:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi again Brandt, > > The script is attached > > Intructions for use: > 1. Create a directory ~/qemu > Assuming that your username is brandt; hust type to do that: > mkdir /home/brandt/qemu > or just: > mkdir ~/qemu > As a reminder, ~ stands for /home/<username> > In my case /usr/didier, in yours I assume /home/brandt > but anyway the output of this command will tell you: > echo ~ > > 2. move the Windows ISO file in ~/qemu,? renamed ~/qemu/win windows.iso > For instance her I did this: > > /data/images_ISO/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_fr-fr_21354.iso > > 3. Download the script windows.sh and store it somewhere > Change to the directory where it is installed and run it like this: > sh windows.sh > Then press Enter. > Press? Enter again after 5 seconds to make sure it starts the Windows > Wait patiently until the installer displays its first screen in the VM. > > Notes: > You need to be in a graphical environment like Mate. > If the VM steals the focus, type Ctrl+Alt+G to get it back on the host. > > After Windows installation, running the script should start Windows > directly in > the VM. > > Cheers, > Didier > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 15:06, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi Brandt, >> >> I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM >> allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. >> >> It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu >> installed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Didier >> >> >> Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >>> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >>> >>> >>> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >>> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >>> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >>> >>> >>> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >>> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >>> >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> >>> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 1 sibling, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Thanks Didier, Much appreciated. Regards, Brandt On 8/10/21 3:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi Brandt, > > I will attach to my next message a script that sets up a qemu VM > allowing to install then run Windows later today after more testing. > > It should be usable in any Linux distribution with a recent qemu > installed. > > Cheers, > > Didier > > > Le 10/08/2021 ? 12:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: >> Hi all, >> >> >> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >> >> >> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare >> Workstation Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >> >> >> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for >> setting up a VM using qemu in Slint? >> >> >> Warm regards, >> >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> >> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work Help, I need a Windows VM for my work blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` (2 more replies) 2 siblings, 3 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hey there, personally I use VirtualBox on Ubuntu mate 20.04 and it works without any issues, though the interface is sometimes not entirely cooperating and OCRDesktop is required to improve the accuracy of Orca clicks. But it's definitely doable. The usage is quite simple, you just create a new Virtual machine from the machine menu, setting up parameters like RAM and disk space. Then, when the machine is created, you attach the installation ISO to its virtual CD/DVD rom, you can do this in the machine settings, Storage tab, IDE controller (if you don't see it in the list, increase the number of sata ports to 2). After starting the machine with the iso attached, it should boot automatically and start the installation. When you're done, you can remove the installation disk from the drive, in fact this is sometimes done automatically, but I saw cases where it staied there, so I always check it. Then, you can start the VM either from the VirtualBox manager, or from its .vbox shortcut. A final note, when running the machine, keyboard is grabbed by VirtualBox for it. If you need to send keys to your host system, press the right ctrl on your keyboard, it works in the same way as Orca+Backspace combination for Orca, with the exception that the keyboard will be grabbed again only when you reenter the window of the machine, so you can work in your host system without any issues. Best regards Rastislav D?a 10. 8. 2021 o 12:55 Linux for blind general discussion nap?sal(a): > Hi all, > > > As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my > work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. > > > Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I > cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare Workstation > Player doesn't want to install under Slint. > > > Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting > up a VM using qemu in Slint? > > > Warm regards, > > > Brandt Steenkamp > > > Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Ratislav, While some find easier to set up a virtual machine using a GUI personally I find easier to just do it on the command line, the command being saved in a small shell script like the one I posted and also included inline in my previous message. Also Qemu is way powerful and more reliable then VirtualBox including wrt sound. Cheers, Didier Le 10/08/2021 ? 23:33, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?: > Hey there, > > personally I use VirtualBox on Ubuntu mate 20.04 and it works without > any issues, though the interface is sometimes not entirely cooperating > and OCRDesktop is required to improve the accuracy of Orca clicks. > > But it's definitely doable. > > > The usage is quite simple, you just create a new Virtual machine from > the machine menu, setting up parameters like RAM and disk space. > > Then, when the machine is created, you attach the installation ISO to > its virtual CD/DVD rom, you can do this in the machine settings, Storage > tab, IDE controller (if you don't see it in the list, increase the > number of sata ports to 2). > > > After starting the machine with the iso attached, it should boot > automatically and start the installation. > > > When you're done, you can remove the installation disk from the drive, > in fact this is sometimes done automatically, but I saw cases where it > staied there, so I always check it. > > > Then, you can start the VM either from the VirtualBox manager, or from > its .vbox shortcut. > > > A final note, when running the machine, keyboard is grabbed by > VirtualBox for it. If you need to send keys to your host system, press > the right ctrl on your keyboard, it works in the same way as > Orca+Backspace combination for Orca, with the exception that the > keyboard will be grabbed again only when you reenter the window of the > machine, so you can work in your host system without any issues. > > > Best regards > > > Rastislav > > > D?a 10. 8. 2021 o 12:55 Linux for blind general discussion nap?sal(a): >> Hi all, >> >> >> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >> >> >> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare Workstation >> Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >> >> >> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting >> up a VM using qemu in Slint? >> >> >> Warm regards, >> >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> >> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) vmware player is also free On 8/10/2021 2:33 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hey there, > > personally I use VirtualBox on Ubuntu mate 20.04 and it works without > any issues, though the interface is sometimes not entirely cooperating > and OCRDesktop is required to improve the accuracy of Orca clicks. > > But it's definitely doable. > > > The usage is quite simple, you just create a new Virtual machine from > the machine menu, setting up parameters like RAM and disk space. > > Then, when the machine is created, you attach the installation ISO to > its virtual CD/DVD rom, you can do this in the machine settings, Storage > tab, IDE controller (if you don't see it in the list, increase the > number of sata ports to 2). > > > After starting the machine with the iso attached, it should boot > automatically and start the installation. > > > When you're done, you can remove the installation disk from the drive, > in fact this is sometimes done automatically, but I saw cases where it > staied there, so I always check it. > > > Then, you can start the VM either from the VirtualBox manager, or from > its .vbox shortcut. > > > A final note, when running the machine, keyboard is grabbed by > VirtualBox for it. If you need to send keys to your host system, press > the right ctrl on your keyboard, it works in the same way as > Orca+Backspace combination for Orca, with the exception that the > keyboard will be grabbed again only when you reenter the window of the > machine, so you can work in your host system without any issues. > > > Best regards > > > Rastislav > > > D?a 10. 8. 2021 o 12:55 Linux for blind general discussion nap?sal(a): >> Hi all, >> >> >> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >> >> >> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare Workstation >> Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >> >> >> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting >> up a VM using qemu in Slint? >> >> >> Warm regards, >> >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> >> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
* Help, I need a Windows VM for my work ` blinux-list ` blinux-list ` blinux-list @ ` blinux-list 2 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw) For ubuntu mate 20.04, I could not get the installer to work with orca. How did you do that? > On Aug 10, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote: > > Hey there, > > personally I use VirtualBox on Ubuntu mate 20.04 and it works without > any issues, though the interface is sometimes not entirely cooperating > and OCRDesktop is required to improve the accuracy of Orca clicks. > > But it's definitely doable. > > > The usage is quite simple, you just create a new Virtual machine from > the machine menu, setting up parameters like RAM and disk space. > > Then, when the machine is created, you attach the installation ISO to > its virtual CD/DVD rom, you can do this in the machine settings, Storage > tab, IDE controller (if you don't see it in the list, increase the > number of sata ports to 2). > > > After starting the machine with the iso attached, it should boot > automatically and start the installation. > > > When you're done, you can remove the installation disk from the drive, > in fact this is sometimes done automatically, but I saw cases where it > staied there, so I always check it. > > > Then, you can start the VM either from the VirtualBox manager, or from > its .vbox shortcut. > > > A final note, when running the machine, keyboard is grabbed by > VirtualBox for it. If you need to send keys to your host system, press > the right ctrl on your keyboard, it works in the same way as > Orca+Backspace combination for Orca, with the exception that the > keyboard will be grabbed again only when you reenter the window of the > machine, so you can work in your host system without any issues. > > > Best regards > > > Rastislav > > > D?a 10. 8. 2021 o 12:55 Linux for blind general discussion nap?sal(a): >> Hi all, >> >> >> As I stated before, I am running Slint on the bare metal, however my >> work entails teaching NVDA to clients, obviously running Windows. >> >> >> Therefor I desperately need a Windows VM, so I can make a living. I >> cannot figure qemu, virtual-box, I have no idea, and VMWare Workstation >> Player doesn't want to install under Slint. >> >> >> Could someone please, please, give me concise instructions for setting >> up a VM using qemu in Slint? >> >> >> Warm regards, >> >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> >> Sent from my gass powered Slint hair dryer. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 33+ messages in thread
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