email clients

email clients

[Daniel Dalton]

Hi,

What is the easiest email client to setup? I just have a console version
of linux.
Could someone please give me instructions on how  I add my pop3 account?
Or do you know of any documentation?
I am using both speakup and BRLTTY.
Also I am on debian.
Thanks.

Re: email clients

[Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson]

Greetings,


On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Daniel Dalton wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What is the easiest email client to setup? I just have a console version
> of linux.
> Could someone please give me instructions on how  I add my pop3 account?
> Or do you know of any documentation?
> I am using both speakup and BRLTTY.
> Also I am on debian.
> Thanks.

In my opinion, Alpine is the easiest client to set up.

sudo apt-get install alpine

Start it by typing

alpine <enter>

Set it up by typing

m s c

and follow the instructions.

Good luck!

Bertil Smark Nilsson

Re: email clients

[Daniel Dalton]

Hi,

On 22/11/2007 11:01 PM, Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is the easiest email client to setup? I just have a console version
>> of linux.
>> Could someone please give me instructions on how  I add my pop3 account?
>> Or do you know of any documentation?
>> I am using both speakup and BRLTTY.
>> Also I am on debian.
>> Thanks.
> 
> In my opinion, Alpine is the easiest client to set up.
> 
> sudo apt-get install alpine
> 
> Start it by typing
> 
> alpine <enter>
> 
> Set it up by typing
> 
> m s c
> 
> and follow the instructions.
> 

Where do I enter my pop server stuff and user name and password. I only 
found the smtp stuff. How do I navigate the setup questions?
Thanks for your help.

Re: email clients

[Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson]

Good afternoon,


On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Daniel Dalton wrote:

>
> Where do I enter my pop server stuff and user name and password. I only found 
> the smtp stuff. How do I navigate the setup questions?
> Thanks for your help.

Use Fetchmail to get the mail from your pop server to your computer. The 
easiest way to use fetchmail is to write a configuration file called 
.fetchmailrc which you put in your home directory. Type man fetchmailrc to 
learn how to write it.

With regard to the Alpine configuration, you move with your up and down 
arrows and read the instructions at the bottom of the screen. If you, for 
example, are required to type in something like the name of your smtp 
server, your hit "c" for change which will put your cursor in the input 
field. Finish off with <enter>.

Good luck!

Bertil

Re: email clients

[Daniel Dalton]

On 23/11/2007 6:09 PM, Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson wrote:
> Good afternoon,

Hello,

> 
> 
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> 
>>
>> Where do I enter my pop server stuff and user name and password. I 
>> only found the smtp stuff. How do I navigate the setup questions?
>> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Use Fetchmail to get the mail from your pop server to your computer. The 
> easiest way to use fetchmail is to write a configuration file called 
> .fetchmailrc which you put in your home directory. Type man fetchmailrc 
> to learn how to write it.

I will. Thanks for all the help. I will have to get back to you maybe 
some time early next week since I have two tests coming up and I need to 
study. And I have a lot of homework! :-( Also I am going to be out of 
town for a night.

Anyway I'll have to get that done. But once thats out of the way I'll 
look at this.

Once again thanks for all this information.

> 
> With regard to the Alpine configuration, you move with your up and down 
> arrows and read the instructions at the bottom of the screen. If you, 
> for example, are required to type in something like the name of your 
> smtp server, your hit "c" for change which will put your cursor in the 
> input field. Finish off with <enter>.

Do I just type in smtp.gmail.com?

Do I use sendmail? where do I tell alpine to use fetchmail? And re the 
instructions at the bottom of the screen. Are they right at the bottom? 
Like under everything else so I just hold numb 9 to get there? (I'm 
using speakup)

Thanks for the help.

Re: email clients

[Willem van der Walt]

I have already sent you an example .fetchmailrc file in one of the emails.
Fetchmail is a separate program from alpine.  You do not configure the 
fetchmail stuff in the alpine configuration.

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Daniel Dalton wrote:

> On 23/11/2007 6:09 PM, Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson wrote:
> > Good afternoon,
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Where do I enter my pop server stuff and user name and password. I only
> > > found the smtp stuff. How do I navigate the setup questions?
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > Use Fetchmail to get the mail from your pop server to your computer. The
> > easiest way to use fetchmail is to write a configuration file called
> > .fetchmailrc which you put in your home directory. Type man fetchmailrc to
> > learn how to write it.
> 
> I will. Thanks for all the help. I will have to get back to you maybe some
> time early next week since I have two tests coming up and I need to study. And
> I have a lot of homework! :-( Also I am going to be out of town for a night.
> 
> Anyway I'll have to get that done. But once thats out of the way I'll look at
> this.
> 
> Once again thanks for all this information.
> 
> > 
> > With regard to the Alpine configuration, you move with your up and down
> > arrows and read the instructions at the bottom of the screen. If you, for
> > example, are required to type in something like the name of your smtp
> > server, your hit "c" for change which will put your cursor in the input
> > field. Finish off with <enter>.
> 
> Do I just type in smtp.gmail.com?
> 
> Do I use sendmail? where do I tell alpine to use fetchmail? And re the
> instructions at the bottom of the screen. Are they right at the bottom? Like
> under everything else so I just hold numb 9 to get there? (I'm using speakup)
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
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Re: email clients

[Daniel Dalton]

On 23/11/2007 6:30 PM, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> I have already sent you an example .fetchmailrc file in one of the emails.
> Fetchmail is a separate program from alpine.  You do not configure the 
> fetchmail stuff in the alpine configuration.

Ah yes. I see it.
Is it this example?

poll pop3.yourisp.com
proto pop3
username daniel
password yourpassword

To configure my gmail one could I just type:

poll pop.gmail.com
proto pop3
username daniel.dalton47@gmail.com
password MyPassword

How do I tell it to remove messages from the pop server?
And then what about the smtp stuff do I set that up in alpine?

And how do I tell alpine to use fetch mail?

And how do I choose to use port 995 for pop and 587 for smtp?
And I also need to use ssl.

Thanks for all the help.

Re: email clients

[Geoff Shang]

Daniel Dalton wrote:

> How do I tell it to remove messages from the pop server?

You use the keyward "nokeep" which may or may not be the default (look at 
the fetchmail man page for more info).

> And then what about the smtp stuff do I set that up in alpine?

Depends.  Most people set up their linux machines so that mail retrieval 
and transmition are separate from programs like alpine, but you can do both 
within alpine if you want.  The advantage to getting something like 
sendmail or exim to handle outgoing mail and fetchmail to handle incoming 
mail is that you can easily switch between mailers and they won't care, and 
also any mail that the system sends you will appear along with your regular 
mail rather than being in some separate folder.

If you get your mail transport to handle your outgoing mail, how you set it 
up will depend on which MTA you're running.

> And how do I tell alpine to use fetch mail?

You don't.  Alpine will, by default, look in the file pointed to by the 
$MAIL environment variable for your incoming mail.

> And how do I choose to use port 995 for pop and 587 for smtp?
> And I also need to use ssl.

I've not used fetchmail with SSL but there appears to be info about this in 
the fetchmail man page.  This page also seems to indicate that 995 is used 
by default for POP3 over SSL.

As for SMTP, again this depends on which MTA you are using and whether you 
want to use your MTA or do SMTP direct from Alpine.

Geoff.

Re: email clients

[Geoff Shang]

Hi,

re setting up alpine, you will also need to tell alpine to track the cursor 
properly.  You can start alpine with this option enabled by typing

alpine -show-cursor

You can then go into the config screen and enable it permanently.  Or 
you can enable it in the config file .pinerc

Pine's screen layout has status and instructional messages in the 3rd line 
from the bottom of the screen unless the keymenu is disabled.  The bottom 
two lines give available commands, which will probably be very useful for 
you while you get used to using the program (I still have it enabled after 
using alpine and it's previous incarnation pine for almost 13 years).

Geoff.