From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.207]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EToXU-0000Li-00 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:42:04 -0400 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s17so194438wxc for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:41:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DVfbog3thmUvEJ+gCu2pWd+XZDxtV5k4ZZq1wQtQDH5o3XuqWpc5ZpVJ7FyS3lWnzyZi/kb+puQ8WJZuGB8TjyOgeMMNF4JqqKrtfFNsaRFBiMGQpGKIC9AtoEdVnLoZIT7GjLWM64xNbMDojQh0KXn7XimmJatXaqvg1s0BQcc= Received: by 10.70.67.16 with SMTP id p16mr3179735wxa; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.90.9 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:41:37 -0700 From: Jane Lee To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: off topic: accessibility with mac stuff? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:42:04 -0000 hey deedra, Apple was beta testing VoiceOver before tiger came out.=20 Since nobody really did anything to make OS X accessible, having given up at the small user base, Apple decided to take matters into their own hands. IMO, the accessibility features in OS X are fantastic, but only because there's nothing to compare it to - a little is better than nothing. A lot of the features like magnification work well, but VoiceOver is still clearly beta and limited and is not all too great if you're using a non-Apple application. However, it's most definately more usable than Microsoft Narrator and the likes. Apple's Accessibility team did a good job with starting, here's to hoping they make it more advanced and less buggy than it is right now. Cheers j