From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.206]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DS1Vz-0003nv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:36:51 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so730363rne for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:36:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YENmX946o0PPPdoq0cCSonZe8/Ej1zkEsropZ2/X6lXwEzhprK0vVfvifdRASmvQinDVsIqA7p/u5q+/BnxnovOh+ms7BcQ/FB93K7DKKzF1bemEqb2XRRPTw39bivw3XiziVx1P3utTmBi/H4MaN6tRPvl8EAa5JksQ352e8jw= Received: by 10.38.67.69 with SMTP id p69mr5000741rna; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.98.79 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:36:50 -0700 From: Jane Lee To: Jane Lee , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." In-Reply-To: <20050430232918.GB8706@rednote.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <009501c54d92$55232de0$6501a8c0@DAVIDPC> <05d101c54d92$f24d8de0$6a00a8c0@desktop> <20050430214315.GC9644@luke-laptop.yelavich.home> <20050430232918.GB8706@rednote.net> Subject: Re: Planning a VoiceOver Main Menu Review X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jane Lee , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:36:51 -0000 On 4/30/05, Janina Sajka wrote: > I have a hard time conceivingg of a kernel based access as "stand > alone." >=20 > Still, but really tickles me is that you mention Speakup in the same > breath with JAWS, and you even mention it first. >=20 > Seems we've arrived. :p well sorry.=20 the speakup/jaws thing is pretty funny though, i work more with jaws than anything else, you'd think i'd mention it first. hehe. and david: you can get older Macs that can run tiger, but it's going to run pretty slowly. and the up-to-date thing only works if you bought it during a certain period of time from apple or an apple certified reseller. cheers jane