From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mozart.is.nottingham.ac.uk ([128.243.40.93]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DNcdj-0004W3-00 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:14:39 -0400 Received: from zcd-149-109.sns.nottingham.ac.uk ([10.3.149.109] helo=mike) by mozart.is.nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1DNcdS-0002Pz-00 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:14:22 +0100 References: <42587663.5030705@freedombox.cc> <20050410043628.GA13727@blackbox> <16996.2647.700025.712163@akp@selfhost.com> Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Michael Whapples To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:14:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact staff-it-helpline@nottingham.ac.uk for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikster4@msn.com Subject: Re: FreedomBox X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:14:40 -0000 As Kenny pointed out most places have a privacy policy, I can't find one on the freedombox website. Using your example of google, if you look for it you will find a privacy policy for that. The amount of information required to sign up for a trial account with freedombox is quite alot, and is personal, why should I want to give it out with out knowing how it will be used. With out seeing a privacy policy, I may be agreeing that the information submitted can be handed on to other companies for advertising purposes. I am not saying this how the information is used, but there is nothing that tells me how it will be. Mike Ann K. Parsons writes: > Hi all, > > I suggest, respectfully, that unless you have documented evidence of > wrong doing, you cease and desist from libeling a product or its > creators/maintainers. It is not a wise thing to speculate like this. > Moreover, it damages people's reputation. > > I don't have any evidence for or against all this hoopla except that I > haven't gotten any more spam than normal since I joined Freedom Box. > I'm not a techie, and I can't make judgments about this kind of > thing. > > However, I would venture to say that since any web site you go to for > shopping, for pleasure and so on does track your activity, what's the > beef here? > > Though I am not a techie, I can speak to the talents of Freedom Box's > head programmer who, when forced to do so, was instrumental in > protecting the security of GrassRoots MOO, and that was even before he > went to college. If he says there isn't any activity that he knows > about that is tracking you, then I'll believe him. > > C'mon guys, the problem with all this speculation is that it's > probably not true, and if it is, is probably much less harmful than > you think. What is harmful is spreading unsubstantiated rumors. > Rumors are just that, rumors. Heck, guys, google tracks you when you > go there, probably. So do the other search engines. What you gonna > do, stop searching the net? > > You can get all revved up about this if you want to, but I'd rather > see Freedom Box help those for whom it was designed. It's a good > product. It works well. It shouldn't be plagued by rumors. If you > don't like it, then don't buy it. I don't buy grape juice cuz I don't > like it. I buy orange juice and v8. > > Ann P. > > -- > Ann K. Parsons