From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DA2641C4341; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 06:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="RolNjWPY"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail-oi1-x22d.google.com (mail-oi1-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BD501C42F6 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 06:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id i21so10008416oib.11 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 03:06:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:reply-to:to:cc:subject:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=tGhmqPK4Ec4A0bjVf6kcd2b0rpQQi1AMrg3K95fCJC4=; b=RolNjWPYSG9XzskN3YH09a/WzB9kbel1/lTfffIJqXtNQktySdZgDNFYtUnFuDrH/J YCBpZqtJ9esN9rt57OLzAawsDnYZaopLW2pGhzO0jHEPkPoU3rS+SVsU8sfLCCUnigLH 700fcub06g/h7RGeykYCyOhr7rQQFeKjsK/knO8RMXsa4bieo3cDhiiNSShO5+YCQavc C1my8ZyCMCPzxpW28rI5JcU1pr0TQQbZmwzU+Qfc5pq2wZWxrBPJ74wZk3UXLNBhS6P+ 5g9td5mgb/ra/DVH1cSeUqx+QCRqmYn1EgdnKINVTm/vqxsccAhvJ0vr3N5gGYnAgqz6 C/sQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:reply-to:to:cc:subject:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=tGhmqPK4Ec4A0bjVf6kcd2b0rpQQi1AMrg3K95fCJC4=; b=iCOVZwzqcegHY+qy4MEwmY+N9LMwRduunPSI3BKjfBCJkgLqWZ0IPZbTcLIGPZrOqy oyADqh81YYIAoJdtX3ihLQUTFvSiD/1EMeT7W403VCcyj8CqWzDzEGWQ7Gxd8UQgBeP+ CZHlxVFqkLG0G+QdWRg2r0j5O8Z5y7YJnP+Wpf264SYCukySl9tM8QdQ58dirz8JtkfB vEO6rwz9pEoS4PC1sB76VLjWCB78CzCfvyWwD4RWbC+EdVqUK0P2Cs7gYSX/05CKyDyP Gc9EFbnVQlN9U/UTfj9yXH/igap480+CRO7UJjJ4FqnnQlyWzyNeG/YXd3vKGogO1ZQP nV3g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWUBvMLa1YgBbUdZZnRs/x4YBA4mkxRGX5u9uOI63M7ztInDgUJ E7iYq04fF1Dc75eWrtZejsY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxLZFRHX6zYTY9teJClPtXTBa/lFJYcBt92sIhyF4sUGz6OYBAU6kpBnDpyneZDt9KaTEM2pw== X-Received: by 2002:aca:f086:: with SMTP id o128mr12321387oih.101.1555150017493; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 03:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from workshop (99-13-41-4.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net. [99.13.41.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a23sm16475628otf.69.2019.04.13.03.06.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 13 Apr 2019 03:06:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Hallenbeck X-Google-Original-From: Chuck Hallenbeck Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 06:06:44 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: archie@workshop Reply-To: Chuck Hallenbeck To: Willem van der Walt cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: : Using enter or using arrows, that is the question Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99 (LNX 239 2017-12-04) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 10:07:00 -0000 Hi all, I prefer to remain witgh the use of enter to make adjustments in controls suchaas Master, for instance, which makes a lot of sense given that upward adjustment and downward adjustment are offered as separate items in the menu for that control. Arrowing to the upward item and pressing enter makes the adjustment and leaves the control selected, so that pressing enter repeatedly makes a series of adjustments in the same direction. It's beautiful to see the percent figure change and hear the perceived loudness change in sync with the numeric value. I'm not sure how one would put the entire job of making adjustment onto the arrow keys. Just my $0.02 worth. Chuck -- Here In Northeast Ohio, The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (57% of Full) If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. Sent from Lucille's missing iPhone.