From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp103.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.242]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D219C1A2C0 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10225 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2010 23:31:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1285630294; bh=+vovqD1DCAekbGFwyhZ5aIQGvtoOqOme/BkVp473iJA=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rCQtoAfbRRg0wLC6LhdQJ0UfFhucj4Pvf4vEBSeFK0SKM0FHWREtVlIgvCFNlzl25PCERmH6fdOzpZZEqUuu8NHd2bj6fTAdZ/dhhpuo6q/YLL30rtMMtBvJm2xZgiKMtX2mN/k0Z4jiN9ufRUEZLrF/nNar6v/a5ewjnmDQy6g= Received: from localhost (myrowa@65.4.220.219 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2010 16:31:34 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: XOe3HSqswBASZ.SfZl8fqWtqtP4MkNp7cEfpPs64wphU X-YMail-OSG: KWivLAcVM1lhhP5WYxcg12goUoBvN8uqriSsmMP3vw4MT8N Q9Pg8XExtcAOgzTzfCLUkYzMyygcLib5cuEc95299KxUYzgrfHpo68d5vBem tcd1M7xw_1W8cVGqw1.fVbylU4bFjTU9SzyxGB9mtaxV1SjSyLRPwq0THVJn 6V5.XUsTVUiq178.YQhx8_mBj1zNoVMuBSBFDuEXOj29bg3UrTrGUYb_YZYp 8hCvHdqM1iu.BurIKFqtZcMZDhcx3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:31:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Adam Myrow To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Running Speakup on Ubuntu Lynx? In-Reply-To: <20100927123640.GA3476@hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: References: <1285439672.2512.4.camel@stormdragon-laptop> <4C9E4A71.80700@gmail.com> <20100927123640.GA3476@hittsjunk.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:31:35 -0000 On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Kenny Hitt wrote: > In my opinion, pulseaudio is a badly behaved app with a developer who > refuses to listen to the needs of blind users who use software speech. I agree fully. Apparently, I'm not alone in this, either. There is a version of Gnome for Slackware Linux called GSB. The previous two versions included Pulseaudio. I always had to find some way to disable it in order to use both Espeak and have sounds. The current version ditched Pulseaudio completely, and includes Espeak as one of its packages. I wouldn't even have messed with Gnome in Slackware 13.1 if they hadn't decided to do this. I hope others will soon follow this trend. If everybody drops Pulseaudio, either the developer will get the message, or it will be abandoned.