From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=rednote.net header.i=@rednote.net header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=dkim header.b=QgfgbC/z; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 99EEF38116A; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [66.228.34.147]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 866DD381163 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rednote.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BEF2FA278; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:40:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rednote.net; s=dkim; t=1640731221; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=RcHa0y0S0GL9T3fsEyfcQswd9VUPFqlYJcpMM4/Prnc=; b=QgfgbC/zo1V7h7WcCH+hdOSpIYv1KA+WHbbxJfBFPohTGrVSjSkSqE02/tPM17EJm2KgB8 JZ7EqvMbDrVR06e4T1VM4++0MDSsci+zD5hWHAHdBOKkICq26NUdCkzlCQjyhhASIn7rrs y2IKPD8kYsb0MoBMt/F+BdDjIV4kGA8= DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.rednote.net 9BEF2FA278 Authentication-Results: mail.rednote.net; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=rednote.net Authentication-Results: mail.rednote.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rednote.net Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.17.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 1BSMeLg6959582; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:40:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:40:21 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: Alexander Epaneshnikov Cc: Didier Spaier , speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: Now Fixed: Archlinux Speakup problems after alsa package upgrade Message-ID: References: <6b4b229d-5e00-22e4-8cf2-33ed7bbd6b93@gmail.com> <3cefe3e6-f95a-ffe9-5995-543d6e4357db@jasonjgw.net> <055e3d2d-0653-3edc-4879-484816734d00@slint.fr> <86d02e30-71fc-50bd-2408-6c658ec2da29@slint.fr> <20211228211323.3f2uhc6hblud4h3a@alex-pc> X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20211228211323.3f2uhc6hblud4h3a@alex-pc> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 5.15.8-200.fc35.x86_64 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.5 Hi, Alexander: Alexander Epaneshnikov writes: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 09:15:07PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote: > > On 28/12/2021 20:50, Janina Sajka wrote: > ... > > In any case you need to rebuild espeakup-0.90 against espeak-ng. How to do that > > no need to do that. > Janina are you using pipewire on box with not working espeakup? > currently espeakup hasn't work with pw. I haven't found time to debug this yet. > sorry. > OK, Alexander. I understand time is a precious thing! Since Espeakup is behaving on both my machines, I'm a happy customer, i.e. I don't mind that I'm using old espeak on one machine, and espeak-ng on the other. That really doesn't bother me at all. I'm glad I'm now able to keep the remainder of the audio infrastructure updating. Yes, I seem to have a full compliment of pw on the older machine, and the same set of pw on the newer machine. Interestingly, the files in /etc/alsa/conf.d/ are different. The new machine shows only two files there: 50-pipewire.conf 99-pipewire-default.conf On the older machine, earlier today, I tried renumber my alsa devices via /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf. I ended up putting things back the way they were, because the builtin Intel HDA device doesn't work as card 0 for some reason--very strange, but I adjusted some time ago to start numbering my three devices as 1, 2 and 3. So, after I put things back, a see much more pw in that directory: 10-samplerate.conf 10-speexrate.conf 50-arcam-av-ctl.conf 50-jack.conf 50-oss.conf 50-pipewire.conf 50-pulseaudio.conf 60-speex.conf 60-upmix.conf 60-vdownmix.conf 98-usb-stream.conf 99-pipewire-default.conf This suggests to me that the conversion to pw is still a work in progress! I've no idea why the above is the situation, though, or what packages handle what aspect. Best, Janina > -- > Sincerely, Alexander -- Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa