From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DC018380C18; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 10:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" header.d=rednote.net header.i=@rednote.net header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=dkim header.b=m/C2zl6v; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [66.228.34.147]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9D83380B28 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 10:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rednote.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CB0CFA268; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 10:19:48 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rednote.net; s=dkim; t=1629555588; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=e5xPhJV4t82oH9zouf1DRUATNAzYcHY5XCNO0flyOhw=; b=m/C2zl6vZ3slzAdhSiBSADE1WP+wxHUx5Q//djCOT7ksgPjuyLXJFgvtESHce4x15n3lGx /siIBMRRxjMNJRkpGFZpkRFHczKfUBvMCic9TFWGeFwXnr4EqSi+bKkLzGs8wDPKVcGK7u LBVVXtR24qQCVUIyX+4ebhN7AKpjyyo= DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.rednote.net 7CB0CFA268 Authentication-Results: mail.rednote.net; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=rednote.net Authentication-Results: mail.rednote.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rednote.net Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 17LEJmwt041859; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 10:19:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 10:19:48 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: Didier Spaier Cc: Samuel Thibault , Alexander Epaneshnikov , Kelly Prescott , speakup@linux-speakup.org, Alexander Epaneshnikov Subject: Re: Archlinux Speakup problems after alsa package upgrade Message-ID: References: <20210819205617.l76b7fxume3lrf67@begin> <20210820152606.r5nznst2t5532th3@alex-pc> <20210820155212.rlj4addvh726cgbb@begin> <20210821121814.vbyw4vxysowqf7as@begin> <1a2514f9-d6cc-7aa2-2e6f-890a1ef76e1b@slint.fr> <59ee45f7-ffcb-545a-e6ff-4e7c57caa155@slint.fr> X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <59ee45f7-ffcb-545a-e6ff-4e7c57caa155@slint.fr> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 5.13.12-200.fc34.x86_64 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.5 My bad about the time delay. I may simply have confused myself over what machine I was talking to. I have a 4 port KVM and I'm forever giving NVDA commands to my Mac, VoiceOver commands to my Linux, Orca commands to my Windws, etc ... Sorry. If the espeakup service is stopped, the by hand start via -d does start it, and it's fine across all consoles. But, there are also no errors in the root console. Any other suggestions much appreciated. And, I'll promise to be extra careful what machine I'm talking to! Janina Didier Spaier writes: > I don't know. Why it work only after some amount of time is beyond me. > > Didier > > Le 21/08/2021 à 15:34, Janina Sajka a écrit : > > Hmmm, now it's working. I never did reboot. I switched to the minuet > > machine with my kvm and found espeakup working. I still see no error > > neither on the root console, which has not returned after the by hand > > start with -d, nor via the ssh from the concerto machine. > > > > So, it seems it will work after some amount of time? > > > > > > Didier Spaier writes: > > > Hi Janina, > > > > > > You are not running this command as regular user, are you? > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Didier > > > > > > [fist sent privately my mistake, sorry] > > > > > > Le 21/08/2021 à 14:49, Janina Sajka a écrit : > > > > Hi, Samuel: > > > > > > > > espeakup -d gives me: > > > > > > > > Unable to open the softsynth device: Permission denied > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > Samuel Thibault writes: > > > > > Janina Sajka, le sam. 21 août 2021 08:11:42 -0400, a ecrit: > > > > > > I have confirmed my audio devices can aplay without problems, but no joy > > > > > > from espeakup. > > > > > > > > > > Would you be able to run espeakup by hand with the -d flag? That'll dump > > > > > the alsa errors and whatnot. > > > > > > > > > > Samuel > > > > > > -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa