From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 7DFD3382BDD; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:11:44 -0500 (EST) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" header.d=rednote.net header.i=@rednote.net header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=dkim header.b=lrJSgsR1; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [66.228.34.147]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0E2382801 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.rednote.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37D3AFA24F for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:11:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rednote.net; s=dkim; t=1614244273; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=G3WefFfYLqzH5byFpnpJq/jyfck8CKHqUdJOeF+Jde8=; b=lrJSgsR1PJBoMg7ohfIdPSgflJqAtB02X+tMIU+5LkHtHhmcuh4N41+DwThvAUMWqnENhw SyEHOgZfrHtNSoONUv+f3V8x6PCfkaU4XRsUPwgSO3nMmjUkgHNJA516Y7NVwxC1NYUciR 7+dMuAliGBy2lW9hGe9BPeeQ+iyCn3c= Received: (from janina@localhost) by rednote.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 11P9BDis200429 for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:11:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:11:13 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Git hosting (was Re: Solving screenreader sound problems ...) Message-ID: References: <87eehamy60.fsf@the-brannons.com> <20210222221819.GJ1700@novena-choice-citizen> <87a6rtjqse.fsf@the-brannons.com> <20210224175624.GP1700@novena-choice-citizen> <8735xljq2n.fsf@the-brannons.com> <87sg5li1re.fsf@the-brannons.com> <20210225040748.GQ1700@novena-choice-citizen> <8735xkhbsn.fsf@the-brannons.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8735xkhbsn.fsf@the-brannons.com> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 5.10.16-200.fc33.x86_64 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 List-Id: Yeah, I've seen that "no bs" label on Gandi for years. I have no idea what it means. To me it's marketing hype that's supposed to make you comfortable because it's so common person, and not stuffed shirt. But, that doesn't define accessibility in any way shape or form. At W3C we use github and I'm perfectly fine with it. I prefer the cli where the git and hub commands meet almost all my needs. hth Janina Chris Brannon writes: > Jookia writes: > > > I generally go by WCAG 2.1 guidelines at the moment for a definition of > > 'accessibility'. > > > > Currently the only provider I see that almost fits this bill is GitHub. > > Github is ok. But sourcehut is far more usable due to a strong > emphasis on "no bullshit". You won't find this in guidelines or in > technical definitions. > > Do you actually test with screenreaders? How about Orca? Do you have > access to a Raspberry Pi 4? An x86 machine would work, but I think a > Raspberry Pi 4 with Orca is a nice environment for testing. If you > don't have an installation with Orca easy to hand, but you do have a Pi > 4, I can send you an image you could test with. > > Assuming you've got Orca running, you should try using the following two > sites in Firefox. I picked a couple repos at random, for a compare-and-contrast. > > https://github.com/curl/curl > https://sr.ht/~vpzom/lotide/ > > -- > Chris Brannon > Founder: Blind and Low Vision Unix Users Group (https://blvuug.org/). > Personal website: (https://the-brannons.com/) > Chat: IRC: teiresias on freenode, XMPP: chris@chat.number89.net -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa