From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 3AEE31C0129; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.shellworld.net (server2.shellworld.net [66.172.12.120]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0822D1C0129 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by server2.shellworld.net (Postfix, from userid 1028) id 06E5C8C04AF; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server2.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A1F8C03E0 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:10:16 -0700 From: Chime Hart To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: DecTalk Settings from Within Speakup? In-Reply-To: <20200420002058.dzdm3nvydxtjkvw2@function> Message-ID: References: <20200416232813.t2zszb42qd2icfks@function> <20200417004033.GA5829@gregn.net> <20200417011211.yz4a7gch76ewp6j5@function> <20200417193714.enlesc2vad3phjls@function> <20200418011411.3z37lu4w54yszjt6@function> <20200419022742.GA4101@gregn.net> <20200419033024.GA2777@qlf.suddenlink.net> <20200420002058.dzdm3nvydxtjkvw2@function> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:10:20 -0000 Hi Samuel-and-All: And yes, even though I have some frustrations in Speakup, as a user, I am quite thankful there are folks such as you-and-others still working on it. You indirectly aluded to something I've been thinking over the years. I don't think there are any commercial screen-readers in Linux. After enjoying Vocal-Eyes for maybe 12years, because it was commercial it was feature rich, as well, you could either trade individual mail with the same people who would gladly answer the phone-and-walk you through an opperation. Back then whether you called Arkenstone about OpenBook or another vender, they all understood these DecTalks. Many years ago we tried getting YASR working with this unit, but no luck. So, yes, other than e-macs-speak which I don't understand, if there were another similar option like Vocal-Eyes, I would jump at it. On another point, I probably mentioned an inflection option while asking for guidance. However, for 16years or more since I've been useing Speakup, I have constantly mentioned trouble with these DecTalk drivers, but since I am not a programmer I know nothing about writing code. Unlike other opperating systems, you know I have never once had another knowlegable Speakup user here working on my system. Many years ago when the latest kernel which would work with a DecTalk was 2.6.32, I did have a very good sighted Linux expert here who was on I R C with Speakup folks. Unfortunately he eventually figured out that nobody cared. In addition I've gotten alot of value from others creating helpful tools which either edited audio which was sorely needed or wrote a much more robust usenet news client. Thanks so much for listening-and-I hope I adequately explained my position. Chime