From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from apollo.csir.co.za ([146.64.10.99]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GdTQH-0007Jj-00 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:15:06 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([146.64.19.125]) by apollo.csir.co.za (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9RFESpr020023; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:14:29 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9RF9SEh024657; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:09:28 +0200 Received: from localhost (wvdwalt@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k9RF9Qao024648; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:09:27 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: wvdwalt owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:09:26 +0200 (SAST) From: Willem van der Walt X-X-Sender: wvdwalt@localhost.localdomain To: Henrik Nilsen Omma Subject: Re: Feisty SpeakUp In-Reply-To: <4542121A.4040006@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: References: <4542121A.4040006@ubuntu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-CSIR-MailScanner-Information: Please contact sys-admin at csir dot co dot za for more information X-CSIR-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: wvdwalt@csir.co.za Cc: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:15:06 -0000 Adding speakup so that it talks out of the vertual box would be good. For a live cd, I would suggest espeak as the synth because of its small size. See www.oralux.org You might save some work may be. On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to ask for some input on a spec I'm doing for the next version > of Ubuntu. We currently have speakup in the kernel but it's very far > from Just Works. See: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/FeistySpeakup > > I guess I first have to ask what the common use cases are. Is speakup > largely used by system admins and developers working from the CLI? Is it > valuable to have a Live CD that boots to the CLI with speakup? We > currently don't have CLI Live CD AFAIK. > > The possible areas I could imagine improving usability are: > > * Server edition -- Currently has the speakup module, but not simple > way to install or run live > * The debian installer -- currently used on the alternate and server CDs > * spoken boot -- have all the boot messages read out as you boot > * Standard CLI, simple launch -- For those who prefer gnome it may be > difficult to recover when X fails. It should be trivial to launch > speakup in such cases: 'start-speakup'. An introduction with basic > operating instructions should be read out. > * anything else? > > > Another point I want to emphasise is that if we do this it would be in > the main Ubuntu distribution, not a special derivative. It is not just > intended for advanced computer users, but beginners as well. The > features should then also get picked up by Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Mephis, etc. > > > Henrik > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the CSIR. CSIR E-mail Legal Notice http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the CSIR Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line to CallCentre@csir.co.za. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support.