From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mxsf02.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.202]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHS6b-0005kz-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:10:09 -0500 Received: from maranatha.chartermi.net (c66.168.18.11.mad.wi.charter.com [66.168.18.11]) by mxsf02.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5I5cag041973 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:05:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chomiak@chartermi.net) Received: from chomiak (helo=localhost) by maranatha.chartermi.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHS2E-0003ne-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:05:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:05:38 -0600 (CST) From: Cheryl Homiak To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." In-Reply-To: <20031105164829.GK17772@rednote.net> Message-ID: References: <6D3A09C6CAB0D311BA5000902760D022040F1ECD@chpt0000se01.cherrypoint.usmc.mil> <20031105164829.GK17772@rednote.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Mobile Accessibility X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:10:09 -0000 Janina: Are pdf files for cell phone manuals considered to be meeting accessibility? I am having to have my cell phone manual brailled at my own expense. the only way I could get it, other than print, was pdf. when i downloaded the pdf and turned it into text, I think the columns on pages must have been interwoven or something, because I'll get a sentence or part thereof of one topic and then it switches to a sentence of another topic. It would appear that there was some kind of formatting or columning that neither an html translator or text translator could handle. Ironically, the volunteer group transcribing my manual have found the pdf file very helpful for the transcription--but I couldn't use it "out of the box" so to speak. the whole accessibility thing is rather strange, as there are increasingly voice recognition and speech production in some way by these phones, but those capabilities never extend to actual navigation of the menus and reading of the display, etc. -- Cheryl