From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from orb.pobox.com ([216.65.124.72]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A00N0-0003Zk-00 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:06:58 -0400 Received: from texas.pobox.com (unknown[64.49.223.111]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220C8156947; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-209-158-248-138.cap.east.verizon.net [209.158.248.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by texas.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACA545495; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:06:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Danny Crone X-X-Sender: dannyboy@localhost.localdomain To: Charles Crawford Cc: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: I'm sorry, but I'm desperet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Charles. I like the way that some things I do are quicker using linux. One of these is appending to text filess while in pine. I like the fact that, so far, my linux box has never crashed. On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Charles Crawford wrote: > I am kind of in agreement that Linux could be a great deal more > easy with a better command line interpreter but that ain't the case. So > we have a choice, either stay with Windows and all of it's control over > our computing lives or take the time to learn the logic and sintax of > Linux. Once that task is done, then it is truly an amazing operating > system that grows on you like an old friend. I am not there in terms of > my knowledge but I really have grown to like it quite a bit and suggest > that you take the time to read the how tos and once you get familiar > with it then it will reallly do great stuff for you. > > You know there is always Windows and an albeit limited dos world > that provides freedom on it's terms of not allowing you to do lots of > stuff and I still use those systems quite a bit. I especially like > WordPerfect 5.1 and the programs I wrote in XBVASE, but eventually Linux > will give me flexibility that I had never dreamed possible. I will > learn how to program in languages that Linux uses and port my old stuff > here. > > OK OK, I've said enough, but just want you to know many of us > share your frustrations and are working towards what promises to be a very > worthwhile goal. > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Glenn Ervin at home wrote: > > > Chris, > > I too don't like that response: > > "look in the how to's" > > and the like. > > If someone is an otherwise experienced person with technology, then a good > > piece of software or an operating system should be intuitive, and it should > > be do-able without reading documentation. > > With winblows and all of its flaws, I can at least say that the average user > > with an interest in figuring it out can do so without documentation. > > I have learned DOS and winblows without ever touching any documentation. > > > > Glenn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:03 PM > > Subject: Re: I'm sorry, but I'm desperet > > > > > > You know what, i really hate people with that type attitude. it almost > > seems to me as if you don't even care to help, like one a these RTFM people, > > and by that i don't mean f=fine either... > > > > All I'm asking for is some help, and yes I read the documentation, how else > > would i a done it... I'm not ententionally trying to sound rude, but my God > > and a mile and a half! your reply seemed very cold to me... > > > > i'm only asking for a little help. is that too much to ask? > > > > > > Chris. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gregory Nowak" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:42 PM > > Subject: Re: I'm sorry, but I'm desperet > > > > > > > This isn't a slackware, but an alsa problem. > > > > > > First of all, did you read the documentation? > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 05:29:53PM -0400, Chris wrote: > > > > i know that this may be a real selfish attitude to have, but i'm just > > about > > > > fed up with Slackware... This peace a... i'm trying to install the > > alsa > > > > drivers for the sb live value emu10k1. > > > > > > > > The stupid thing's giving me syntax errors, or b, telling me to rerun > > the > > > > configure script as first. i can't begin to imagine what I'm doing > > wrong... > > > > > > > > i need either to phone someone in the u s as soon! as possible, or b, > > you > > > > may call me at: 704-540-2324 > > > > > > > > just make sure if you do call to begin by telling me who you are and > > that I > > > > know you from the speakup mailing list so I don't get confused. > > > > > > > > i honestly can say, if I can't get my sound up and going, then I don't > > think > > > > linux'll be worth it... > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm willing to give it a shot, but not unless... > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >