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From: Igor Gueths <igueths@attbi.com>
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Unpopularity of Linux notetakers
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 16:33:59 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305031624240.20351-100000@igueths> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305031337300.32500-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Hi Ann. Good point. I did in fact speak to one of their techies and even
she looked at me like I was weird. And I didn't exactly demand it, perhaps
my post implied that fact. What I mearly did was ask if they would supply
one. And her response was that they didn't carry that due to its unpopular
nature. And Ann you had some good suggestions. Perhaps I will look into
Sighted providing a demo for them, because I think this is a very good
aproach. I can also talk to them about the Elba, however I don't think
this will do much in terms of influencing. I believe a demo is a better
aproach to this problem. And in tterms of programming, she tried to tell
me that I needed a braille display? And I kept telling her that I could
read C just fine with speech. I am sure that people like Kirk, Adam, and
Chuck can agree with me on this. Braille is not required to read code.
However, setting your punctuation level to all is required.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Sat, 3 May 2003, Charles Crawford wrote:

>   Well, the head of the MCB tech program wrote two books on assistive
> technology. If he is not up to speed onLinux, then it's his own problem.
>  Smile.
> On Sat, 3 May 2003, Ann Parsons wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Igor, you can't just demand that your rehab people get you an Elba.
> > Yes, they don't know about Elba, and if you say the word, they look at
> > you like you're weird.  The thing you have to do, is not just say, "I
> > would like an Elba."  You have to do what I'm doing now, researching
> > it!  Talk to Pelisher at Sighted.  See if he will do a demo for your
> > rehab folks.  they don't need to know as much about Linux, maybe, but
> > what might impress them is:  long battery life, thirty-six months
> > warantee on braille cells, plays MP3 files *now* not next month's
> > release, has network card as standard, not upon request, has USB and
> > IR ports *now* not upon request, has larger capacity for storage, 5
> > gigs if you purchase that card/thinger, coming GPS same as for
> > packmate, (only probably more stable because of the OS, this bit not
> > relevant to them).  Do your homework, guy, if you want an Elba, tell
> > them why!  Explain about your programming needs, (Elba has C compiler
> > upon request).
> >
> > All they care about is if it's cost effective and if it will be used
> > properly.  Don't give 'em too much info, not unless you're talking to
> > their techies, and then, give fullsome detail.
> >
> >  >>>>> "David" == David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net> writes:
> >
> >     David> I'd start with a note to sighted electronics and I would
> >     David> also copy my request to your congressperson.  You should be
> >     David> able to get what you need not what they think or try to
> >     David> tell you that they need.  The truth is that they don't
> >     David> understand linux and they are geared towards windows.  We
> >     David> had the same trouble with jaws in maryland till I banged on
> >     David> them from my position in the tech act project, brought jaws
> >     David> in and trained them and began demonstrating it to various
> >     David> and assundry folk who started asking for it inside and
> >     David> outside the rehab center.
> >
> > Ah, David, just what did you mean here?  Did you mean Linux or
> > Window-Eyes or what?  You mistyped and lost your point.  <smile>
> >
> > Ann P.
> >
> >
>
> --
> -- Charlie Crawford
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 linux notetaker Angelo Sonnesso
 ` Linux note taker Darragh
   ` David Poehlman
     ` Kenny Hitt
       ` David Poehlman
     ` Lorenzo Prince
       ` David Poehlman
       ` Darrell Shandrow
         ` Tommy Moore
           ` David Poehlman
           ` Patrick Turnage
             ` Mikko Liukko
             ` Dave Hunt
               ` Lorenzo Prince
                 ` Dave Hunt
                   ` Alex Snow
                     ` rmann
                     ` Liz Hare
                       ` Ann Parsons
                       ` Thomas Stivers
                       ` Keith Watson
                         ` Sina Bahram
                           ` Diana Dawne
                           ` Ann Parsons
                           ` Keith Watson
                             ` Sina Bahram
                       ` Diana Dawne
             ` Janina Sajka
               ` Ann Parsons
               ` Jim Ruby
               ` David Poehlman
                 ` Gregory Nowak
                   ` David Poehlman
                   ` Glenn Ervinat home
                   ` Janina Sajka
                     ` David Poehlman
                     ` Thomas D. Ward
                     ` Gregory Nowak
                       ` Thomas D. Ward
                         ` Ann Parsons
                           ` Buddy Brannan
                             ` Googling for PAC Mate William Loughborough
                               ` William Loughborough
                               ` rmann
                                 ` William Loughborough
                     ` Linux note taker Kirk Reiser
                       ` Janina Sajka
                         ` Janina Sajka
                           ` Thomas D. Ward
                           ` Nektarios Mallas
                             ` David Poehlman
                             ` Ann Parsons
                               ` Buddy Brannan
                                 ` Ann Parsons
                               ` Nektarios Mallas
                                 ` Ann Parsons
                                 ` Angelo Sonnesso
                                   ` Gregory Nowak
                                     ` Lorenzo Prince
                                       ` Alex Snow
                                   ` Janina Sajka
                                     ` Ann Parsons
                                   ` Ann Parsons
                                     ` Gregory Nowak
                                       ` Patrick Turnage
                                         ` Ann Parsons
                               ` Unpopularity of Linux notetakers Igor Gueths
                                 ` David Poehlman
                                   ` Ann Parsons
                                     ` Charles Crawford
                                       ` Janina Sajka
                                       ` Igor Gueths [this message]
                                         ` Darrell Shandrow
                                           ` Luke Davis
                                         ` Adam Myrow
                                           ` Luke Davis
                                             ` Adam Myrow
                                             ` Maurice A. Mines
                                             ` Ann Parsons
                                               ` Chuck Hallenbeck
                                             ` Steve Holmes
                                           ` jude dashiell
                                           ` David Poehlman
                                           ` Igor Gueths
                                         ` Gregory Nowak
                                           ` Kirk Reiser
                                             ` Chuck Hallenbeck
                                           ` Chuck Hallenbeck
     [not found]                                   ` <16051.57982.759586.210806%akp@eznet.net>
                                     ` David Poehlman
                                   ` Charles Crawford
                                     ` Ann Parsons
                                     ` Igor Gueths
                       ` Linux note taker Gregory Nowak
                     ` Steve Holmes
                 ` Luke Davis
                   ` Alex Snow
         ` David Poehlman
         ` Lorenzo Prince
       ` Gregory Nowak
         ` David Poehlman
           ` Gregory Nowak
         ` Lorenzo Prince
           ` Linux note taker: computer assistive technologies prices Cheryl Homiak
       ` Linux note taker Mike Arrigo
   ` Ann Parsons
     [not found]   ` <16038.47933.570672.912105%akp@eznet.net>
     ` David Poehlman
       ` Lorenzo Prince
   ` Gregory Nowak
 ` linux notetaker David Poehlman
   ` Mitchell Smith
   ` Gregory Nowak
     ` David Poehlman
     ` Glenn Ervinat home
       ` Doug
         ` Glenn Ervinat home
           ` Alex Snow
         ` Glenn Ervinat home
           ` Doug
             ` Alex Snow
               ` Doug
       ` Alex Snow
 ` eh51
   ` Asmodean
     ` David Poehlman
   ` eh51

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