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From: ccrawford@acb.org
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Gnome, gnopernicus, and X-Windows questions
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:48:52 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209190745410.1392-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00f601c25f56$711f5460$0100a8c0@stargate>

I think you misread y message.  Clearly the work of the group is 
appreciated.  The issue is that we could have had all this done with the 
proper investment of money up front and that money has been out there 
being spent on really inane projects that do nothing for us.  Government 
money is a resource wasted on less than fruitful conferences and should be 
applied to projects such as this.  

	My points relate to macro policy issues and so I respectfully 
submit to you that neither was I ranting nor am I one who is prone to talk 
about things I know not of.

-- charlie Crawford.


On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi, Charley. I'd like to make some drastic corrections on some comments you
> made.
> 
> 
> Charley said:
>   "Why should we have to do all that installing and compiling to
> simply get x-windows to talk right?"
> 
> My reply:
>  Cause, Gnome 2.0, and gnopernicus is under development, and is not to be
> used by the general public at this time.
> It is not ready for people like you to use, and it is assumed the developers
> will be working with it.
> That is the reason it is not built, and out there for just anyone to install
> and use.
> 
> Charley said:
> "but it just drives me up a wall to think that we could have funded good
> work and gotten it done much more quickly."
> 
> my reply:
>  Like how? I mean many people are putting time and money into the Gnome 2.0
> project which goes beyond Linux and will give access to Unix platforms as
> well as Linux.
> Without the speech hooks no screen reader could ever hope to read Gnome
> applications or the desktop.
> Do you think the people on the speakup list are rushing forward to do all
> that work for Gnome?
> 
> Charley said:
>  "If we just bought
> the package and had the access in the box, then how much money would we
> not have to spend on another conference on how come we are not working?"
> 
> My reply:
> Well, once Gnome 2.0 and gnopernicus is complete and ready for general usage
> every Linux operating system has the choice to include it in there box
> distribution. Some like Red Hat, Mandrake, and Suse have already made plans
> to do just that as soon as gnopernicus is released to them to be included in
> their distributions.
> It also is not tied to a hardware ssynth which brings down cost for the end
> user, cross platform portibility, and works in a gui environment similar to
> MS Windows which in many respects is easier to train former Windows users
> in.
> 
> Sumerry:
> I think you should get all your facts strait before getting on the list, and
> ranting and raving about things you don't know what your talking about.
> Find out the goals of a group, their plans, and do some research before
> crucifying a group for doing pore work when you haven't done zilch to
> research it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> 



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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20020917225302.15062.7560.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
 ` Thomas Ward
   ` Steve Holmes
     ` Charles Crawford
   ` ccrawford [this message]
 ` Thomas Ward
     [not found] <20020916195815.6860.27057.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
 ` Thomas D. Ward
   ` ccrawford
     ` Ann Parsons
   ` Monty Lilburn
 Monty Lilburn

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