From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 1cust66.tnt1.minneapolis.mn.da.uu.net ([67.250.208.66] helo=toccata.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17QV4D-0008D0-00 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2002 11:32:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.rednote.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g65FW8804165 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:32:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.rednote.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:32:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: janina@toccata.rednote.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Jaws under Linux? In-Reply-To: <20020703191103.47195.qmail@web12704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: For heavens sake, let's stop with the "don't thinks." Ignorance is just that. On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, JP Schnapper-Casteras wrote: > --- Shaun Oliver wrote: > > Woe! slow down there ann. > > What he's wondering is, will jfw work on something like vmware. > > imho, I don't think so. > > Yup, thanks for the clarification. > > > For starters, there's the issue of direct x. I don't think that direct x > > is even handled at all in a windows emulator. I'll stand to be corrected > > as always. > > there's also the issue of msaa and whether or not it will work on > > something like vmware. > > I can see his point but I also see the other side of the coin having > > started from scratch with linux. > > but I take your point too. > > why pay through the nose for a crappy piece of software that gets major > > changes about once every whenever they can think of something they want to > > add. > > I saw it primarily as a means of transition. A lot of people have significant Windows-only apps > or documents, etc. in a Windows-only format and getting to a Linux environment with Linux formats > is not going to happen overnight. It's important that we acknowledge that the transition takes > time so that: > > 1) We don't make people get frustrated when the transition period takes more than a day. > 2) People don't format their Windows partition, lose access to legacy applications / data and get > really frustrated and mad (at Linux and the people who gave them advice, both of which I have seen > happen). > ... > > So all in all, I'm not suggesting we try to lure people over to Linux and let them continue to > "pay through the nose for a crappy piece of software that gets major changes about once every > whenever" as you put it Shaun. I've always stood against that (see > http://ocularis.sourceforge.net/potential.php ). I'm trying to look at a means of helping that > transition and to answer the (good) question of a Assitive Technology Practitioner at RESNA. > > I hope that clarifies my question. > > Best, > > --JP > > ===== > - > Cell Phone - 206-849-9032 > Time Zone - Pacific (-08:00 UTC) > Home Page - http://ocularis.sourceforge.net > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org