From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 1cust13.tnt28.toronto.on.da.uu.net ([64.10.109.13] helo=toccata.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 177NHW-0000jG-00 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 17:22:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.rednote.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4DLMp603725 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 17:22:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.rednote.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:22:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: janina@toccata.rednote.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: xwindows In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020513154655.0362bec0@198.144.194.210> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well, get the code from Jamal and port it. I never used td because its features were always behind what I needed, i.e. the zip it supported wasn't the latest, the WordPerfect it read wasn't the latest, etc. And, to tell the truth, I saw no reason to learn td's cryptic commands when I already knew a superior 4DOS command set. If you learn bash, you can take that knowledge anywhere bash is. If you learn a td clone, you can only use a td clone. On Mon, 13 May 2002, Charles Crawford wrote: > Did you ever use TD in DOS? That is what I am talking about. > > -- charlie Crawford. > At 12:01 PM 5/13/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Charlie, > >Well, I personally like those cryptic commands--each one does a single > >task well. I hate tabbing through a long list of checkboxes and radio > >buttons (oops, which radio button in the last 15 did I check?) As for > >quickness Jim, there are a few tasks in that unmentionable series of > >operating systems that are achievable very quickly--but I find most > >tasks very cumbersome on those graphical OS's. Of course having worked > >on UNIX systems for about 8 years might have somethingto do with my > >attitude. > > > > Jim Wantz WB0TFK > >On Mon, 13 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > Charlie: > > > > > > Well, there's absolutely nothing stopping someone from writing > > > such a menuing system! > > > > > > hint hint hint > > > > > > Getting people to use it instead of the command line? Well, > > > that's another story. > > > > > > Here's what I think will happen. Some peopl will chose it because > > > it seems to make life simple. Then they'll want to do something > > > the menus don't support. Then the author gets mail saying "why > > > doesn't your menu ..." Then were are you? > > > > > > Back at the command line? > > > > > > Hopefully. Because the alternative, a fully capable menuing > > > system, is far worse. > > > > > > Just goes to say there's no substitute for learning. > > > > > > On Mon, 13 May 2002, Charles Crawford wrote: > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > There is access not far off. I would like to see a menuing > > system > > > > for Linix text mode that would reduce the criptic command line having to > > > > remember all those commands and switches. > > > > > > > > -- charlie Crawford. > > > > At 10:12 PM 05/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Do you think we will ever have access to the gui? > > > > > > > > > >I find that I can access things faster in windows then in Linux text > > > > >mode. I will admit that linux works much better then windows or the > > winxp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org