From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-086.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.86] helo=toccata.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 171Vec-0005sq-00 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 13:06:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.rednote.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3RH6We17195 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 13:06:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.rednote.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 13:06:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: janina@toccata.rednote.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: advice please In-Reply-To: <001c01c1ed8b$f95ad080$ab00a8c0@ec.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-1832574604-1019927192=:16924" Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-1832574604-1019927192=:16924 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi: Looks like an OK plan to me mostly. A few comments: You need swap. It's just a good idea. Rule of thumb is double your RAM to get its size. So, you should do 512. Will you need it all? Probably not--but when you start messing with accessible GNOME later this year, you might appreciate it. And, if you start editing wav files, you'll appreciate it. I know Red Hat does a separate / and /boot. I do not and haven't had a problem. I have 256mB in slash, and am just over 50% full. But, I symbolically link my /var/ftp, /var/www, and /var/spool/mail to directories on /home for a reason I will provide below. You should absolutely have /usr and /home as separate partitions. I also symlink /usr/local to a directory in my /home for the same reason as alluded above. Namely, if /home is fully separate from / and /usr, it becomes very easy to upgrade your OS, even easy to reinstall from scratch without losing data. I simply backup /etc to /home/bk/etc (plus a few other key files), and I have no compunctions about reformatting / and /usr to upgrade, whenever I like. About booting and lilo: You'll get the choice of mbr or first partition for lilo when you install. Select mbr. You'll be asked to provide labels for "other bootable partitions" meaning your Windows partition. Call it whatever you like. That makes it bootable from lilo. The lilo prompt then becomes the first thing you deal with when booting. You can make it accessible in several ways--a couple of beeps from /boot/message help. You can get this by doing: echo -e \a "Welcome to Linux!" \a >/boot/message Also, if you're using a serial speech synth, lilo can say "boot" for you as you get to the lilo prompt by having the following line in your lilo.conf: serial=0,9600N8 assuming that your synth is on the first serial port. Your lilo.conf file will have a default. If you do nothing, after a time out period, the default is booted. You can have alias designations for your various boot images. I use single character alias designations. So, when I boot with a litetalk, in just type l and press enter. When I boot with a Transport, I press t and enter. When I want Windows, I type "dos" and press enter. I've attached my lilo.conf to give you an idea. PS: my vga= is specific to my video, but it gives me screens of 48 lines and 135 chars. On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Cecil H. Whitley wrote: > Hi, > I am in the process of readying my home machine for skipjack (latest redhat beta). It already has windows 98 loaded. The drive currently looks like: > primary partition (c:) 3gb > unallocated space 25gb > extended partition (10gb) > logical drive (d:) 10gb > > In the currently unallocated space I expect to place: > swap (256mb) **I have 256mb ram, do I need swap?** > /boot (100mb) > / (512mb) > I will split the remainder between /usr and /home or I could join /usr and slash if appropriate, does /var need to be in the first 4096mb/1024 cyls? > > What pitfalls await? How and where do I put lilo? How do I choose between windows and linux when booting? Do I always boot to windows and then lilo to linux? Clarification would be greatly appreciated! Oh yeah, and where in the initial config do I change the settings to have it operate properly. 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