From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from w088.z208036108.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net ([208.36.108.88] helo=toccata.grg.afb.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16lX1g-0001Pf-00 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:20:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.grg.afb.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2EFK8Y02833 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:20:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.grg.afb.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:20:08 -0500 (EST) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: janina@toccata.grg.afb.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a page from Napster In-Reply-To: <009a01c1cafe$4a4319e0$6501a8c0@alxndr01.va.comcast.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Go, Amanda. You keep writing like this, and I'll start worrying about my job! On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Amanda Lee wrote: > Hi folks! > > In retrospect, everything afore-mentioned in this thread is most definitely > applicable to Speakup since the root purpose was to ascertain that Speakup > plus lynx plus Linux which is the Operating System supporting all of the > items above are able to work together with the application itself which is > Bookshare. > > As for the ensuing tangential thread! know what! it's still aplicable > because the Access and Usability issues discussed herein are also most > definitely related. > > There are many aspects which involve Speakup which naturally emerge because > all parties involved in this effort are essentially in their own unique > universe. There is really no other forum quite like this one whereby we may > work together as a community comprised of naturally evolving teams to > resolve the unique issues of Speakup. This List is not for the casual user > nor for the user who desires a tightly controled environment. For such > constraints would severely stiffal the positive outcomes which naturally > emerge from our candid and open interactions. > > Amanda Lee > > Alexandria, VA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Georgina" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:09 PM > Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a > page from Napster > > > Hi > > Well, I'm glad for this discussion for a number of reasons. Primarily > because I can now access my account with the Open University because a > lister responded that Debian users need to apt-get install lynx-ssl. > > Perhaps the list owner has commented upon the appropriateness of the > discussion or not but I'd be suprised if such gags are supported. > > Gena > > > > >Hi all, > > > >I did that very thing, Mr. Petersen, and I believe that we may be > >getting somewhere. If my complaints are too loud for you, I'm sorry. > >You see, I happen to believe strongly that no matter what one does to > >aid persons with disabilities, the primary directive should be > >Universal Access. This means that when you start a project, you build > >it so that it is accessible to all from the get-go, not a project that > >needs to be retro-fitted. Retro-fitting has been the way of > >making materials, buildings, transportation and everything else > >accessible. It's time it stopped, frankly, stopped now! We have to > >think in terms of *all* users, not just the fortunate few, all users, > >that includes every single person who might want to access whatever > >the heck it is. > > > >If I am disappointed in something, I say so. I believe that Bookshare > >is making an effort to remedy the problem, and having the discussion > >on here is right because it involves access to something via Linux. > > What better place to find programmers for Linux than on a > >Linux list? What better place to find programmers for making > >something accessible than on a list devoted to accessibility of the > >Linux system to persons who are blind? > > > >Ann P. > > > >P.S., It may interest you to know that I thought Janina was writing > >to me privately last night. That's how come I was so frank in my > >post. Seems my mail blooper started a whopping discussion, > >though. So, I have continued it. > > > >A.P. > > > >-- > > Ann K. Parsons > >email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 > >WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > >"All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." > JRRT > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org