From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-086.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.86] helo=toccata.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XRbJ-0006MR-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 13:42:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.rednote.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g13Idqv12021 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:39:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.rednote.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:39:52 -0500 (EST) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: janina@toccata.rednote.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: mutt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Charley: First, let's be sure it's actually installed. Do: which mutt If it tells you it's there, it's a configuration issue. If it isn't there, then find the correct CD ROM and do rpm -iv mutt* On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, charles crawford wrote: > Janina, > > Thanks. The problem is when I try to run Mutt by typing mutt at > the command line, I get nothing. Is there something else i should be > doing? > > -- charlie. > > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Charley: > > > > Mutt is included in the Redhat install. > > > > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Charles Crawford wrote: > > > > > Where did you get Mutt from? > > > > > > -- charlie.At 12:08 PM 02/02/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Well, all I can say is that, until today, I hadn't used pine for probably > > > >five years. I also have never used mutt until today. > > > > > > > >So, lets just assume for the moment that I'm not an expert on either mailer, > > > >which I'm not. On a blind friendlyness scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the > > > >highest and 1 is the lowest, I'd put pine at about a 4 or 5. That is to say > > > >that, it can be used, but it really is designed to be more graphical than we > > > >need it to be and, while you can configure some stuff to make it better, the > > > >defaults make it a little difficult. > > > > > > > >Mutt, on the other hand, has a brief menu of commands at the top of each > > > >screen. They don't pack enough in there to make it hard to understand; and, > > > >my only regret was that I couldn't figure out how to turn that menu off. > > > >The only reason I'd want to do that, by the way, is because I have to listen > > > >to that menu at the beginning of any message. Of course, there is probably > > > >something that can be done to make that better, but I'm not an expert. > > > > > > > >Never-the-less, it was a joy to operate in the first five minutes or so, > > > >which pine definetly was not. > > > > > > > >I'm not sure what version my isp is running, but I'll have to go and grab > > > >the source code some time and have a look through it. > > > > > > > >Also, by default, the cursor tracks the bar in mutt, at least that is the > > > >way my isp had it set up. Having not tried it on my own machine, I don't > > > >know. > > > > > > > >Anyway, for what its worth, I think its cool. > > > > > > > >73, > > > >Chris Peterson, KG0BP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Janina Sajka" > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:49 AM > > > >Subject: Re: mutt > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, the big difference, arguably, is the license. Mutt is GPL. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got through with playing with mutt for the first time. I love > > > >it! > > > > > > It seems so much better than pine. Can anyone point out the differences > > > > > > between pine and mutt? Anyone use elm? I used that for years and loved > > > >it. > > > > > > I think I'd like mutt better, though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org