From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-086.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.86] helo=toccata.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16X1MS-0007WY-00 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2002 09:41:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.rednote.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g12EflL08737 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:41:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.rednote.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:41:46 -0500 (EST) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: janina@toccata.rednote.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: html mail... In-Reply-To: <001901c1ab85$32424b10$6801030a@greatmachine> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Chris: Isn't ELM now stagnant? Hasn't the version been the same for years? If my info is correct, MUTT is a descendant of ELM. On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > I've never used mutt, but elm is pretty good... > > Thanks for the info on cursor tracking. > > Chris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:24 PM > Subject: Re: html mail... > > > > Hi, Pete: > > > > Attached herewith is my .pinerc file. You'll find your highlight tracks if > > you use it. Of course you could set cursor tracking yourself and that > > would do it as well, but someone was saying something about sharing. I've > > shared this before, and I'm sure I'll be delighted to share it again. And, > > if and when I get around to writing the filter for the char set warnings, > > I'll certainly include them. And, if someone else figures that out first, > > please share it. Etc. > > > > Now, if Pine was just GPL ... But it's not, so maybe it's time to try > > mutt. > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > Well, that shows my ignorance of pine. > > > > > > I haven't used it for several years, but I just tried it out and had no > > > trouble with reading html mail. I also had no trouble reading it in > elm. > > > > > > So, perhaps the better solution would be to distribute a version of pine > > > with defaults that are screen reader friendly? Supressing these > warnings > > > would be a start. > > > > > > Another thing I noticed, on the pine I was using, is that the cursor > doesn't > > > track the highlight bar so I can't use the read current line command to > > > figure out what message I'm on in the message index...etc. It seems to > me > > > that there used to be a way to toggle cursor tracking, but I didn't find > it > > > when I was playing around with pine 4.10 today. > > > > > > This would be a constructive way of trying to avoid these discussions. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janina Sajka" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 4:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: html mail... > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > > > Perhaps pine could even be modified to allow you to access links > imbeded > > > > > in an html message. Thats where I find html to be really useful. I > > > > > like the fact that, in Windows, I can press enter on a url in a > message > > > > > and almost immediately access the page. > > > > This has nothing to do with html, and this feature has been in Pine > for > > > > years now. > > > > > > > > Yes, that's right, all those urls in Pine text messages are > "clickable" as > > > > the mousy crowd calls them. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org