From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta06ps.bigpond.com ([144.135.25.138]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16Kag5-0007RN-00 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 02:46:41 -0500 Received: from data.home ([144.135.25.84]) by mta06ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GP5CLB00.8E3 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:53:35 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-136-137-64.qld.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.137.64]) by psmam06.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0h 110/3002255); 30 Dec 2001 17:46:37 Received: from geoff by data.home with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Kag0-0006fA-00; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:46:36 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:46:35 +1000 From: Geoff Shang To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0 In-Reply-To: <003f01c190c5$3badfda0$0100a8c0@tward> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Thomas Ward wrote: > Well, I'd have the entire manual entry converted into a text file, save it, > and then if you wanted it in braille you'd have to configure a braille > printer under Linux. > If you want it in grade two then you'd have to setup something like megadots > for dos using the dosemu program. I'm pretty sure NFBTRANS will do this under linux. > Speakup is not a bad tts app, Speakup is not a TTS ap, it is a screen reader. Tuxtalk, festival and viavoice are TTS aps. > but it's biggest draw back is it will not give > you any speech access to the x-Windows server, x applications, or anything > with alot of graphical widgits. And the biggest drawback of a car is that it doesn't float on water. C'mon! Speakup was never designed or intended to provide access to the X windows environment, just as ASAP, vocaleyes and such don't provide access to MS windows. I gotta say, I don't really understand all the desire for access to X. It's not like DOS and windows. DOS was an 8 bit OS with many limitations, whereas Win32 is a 32 bit app with alleged multitasking, etc. X provides no functional advantages over the text console as all the power is in the OS itself, which is where it should be. X is a memory and resource hog and I know many sighted people who don't use it or use it minimally. OK, so there are a few aps that only work in X, but those are diminishing rapidly as text users take up the cause. Geoff.