From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cpe-24-221-98-238.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.98.238] helo=lnx1.holmesgrown.com ident=steve) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16Sg54-0006j2-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:09:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by lnx1.holmesgrown.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15300 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:09:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:09:48 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Holmes To: Subject: Re: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? In-Reply-To: <001e01c1a214$7d066020$0100a8c0@tward> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: You say that pressing control alt f1 drops you to a bash prompt. What about logging in? Do you have to login through this X environment first? Could you have a different console come up with a different run level to give you a command style login and shell? From what I recall about initab, you could have a different run level for each console (at least under slackware). I think the init/inittab stuff is generic - non specific to distributions, right? On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Thomas Ward wrote: > Lol! That is funny. Actually, Red Hat 7.2 by default loads the gui, and when > you log in you are dropped on a Gnome 1.4 desktop which is nice. Since my > family likes the gui on start up I leave it that way. > However, a alt+control+f1 sets me right, and gets me into a bash prompt to > get some work done. > So it is no big deal if Linux os's such as Mandrake 8.1 or Red Hat 7.2 it is > set to runlevel 5. One key stroke and you are in bash. > I think you are right though. Linux is at a critical point. Big companies > like IBM are taking Linux serious, and many of home users are peed off at > they way MS puts in their security for XP. > Now is the time to start proving the os for what it can do. However, > Mandrake and Red Hat are good distributions for the average home user. After > most of them can't even reinstall MS Windows which is easy. How could they > even think about Slackware which requires a little knolege of system files > etc. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Adam Myrow > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? > > > > I can hear the advertising now. "Redhat, so easy, no wonder it's number > > 1!" They'll be showing a grandmother on TV saying "my grandson sends me > > email every day and I can actually reply with AOL for Redhat." > > > > In all seriousness, I don't think they could take out the command line. > > After all, that's how Linux works. They could make it start up in X, and > > people wouldn't use the command line, but it's still in there. Even > > Windows XP has a command line if I understand it correctly. I just think > > it's funny that AOL is interested in Linux. > > > > What this shows is what I've believed for a long time. Linux is at a > > critical point in its history. It's powerful enough to run serious > > servers, but it's starting to grab the attention of the public because > > they are finally starting to get tired of Windows crashing and excepting > > that this is not normal behavior for a computer. So, they are looking to > > Linux because it has a reputation for stability, but they see that it > > isn't Windows at all. They want Windows without the bugs, and the Linux > > users want something other than Windows. So, we have word processors > > under the GUI, ICQ cloans and such under the GUI, and development tools > > running at the command line. Redhat is clearly trying to attract home > > users with its Plug 'N Play type install while Slackware is staying with a > > "do it yourself" approach and other distributions seem to be somewhere in > > the middle. Linux is going to go one way or the other. It's really up to > > the users to decide which way it goes. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >