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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: No soap. I tried that but got the same hangup at the same place. I had to shut off the power switch and then start the system from that position and it booted up fine. You are right, I have no pcmcia devices here. I will next try recompiling the kernel with pcmcia deselected, and while I am at it I will look over other choices to see if something might now be inappropriate. It boots fine from a totally powered off state, but not from loadlin in DOS or after a "logical" shutdown and "halt" from an earlier Linux run. Damndest thing. On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote: > If you don't have pcmcia, which it doesn't sound like you do, > make /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia nonexecutable. > Greg > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:41:54PM -0500, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > Hi Tony - > > I just spent some time with a sighted friend slogging through the setup > > program menus and have made some progress here. First of all the boot > > sequence needed to be fixed. Now I can boot from a floppy okay. > > > > Second, when DOS failed, the error message was from the memory manager > > about a faulty device driver. Since I could now run DOS from a floppy I > > simply remarked out the line that loaded my scanner interface card and > > deleted the "exclude" phrase on the memory manager line. Now I can boot > > into DOS on the HD just fine too. > > > > I took the "auto" off the IRQ referring to my external modem serial port > > and selected the "EISA/ISA" choice, but the modem already worked okay > > anyway with "auto" there. It still works okay. > > > > But I still have a problem sometimes when booting my Linux system. It > > always boots up okay from a power off condition. And it also boots up okay > > if I do a "shutdown -r" command as root. But it will not load correctly if > > I do a "shutdown -h" as root and then hit the reset button (or do > > alt-ctrl-del) to try booting back up. And I get the same failure when > > running loadlin from DOS. Both these failures are new - they worked fine > > before the CPU upgrade, and there have been no software changes or HD > > modifications that could account for them. > > > > The failures always occur at the same place - just after the lines that > > show several components of PPP being registered, and immediately prior to > > a line referencing PCMCIA. At least when it DOES run to completion, the > > PCMCIA line follows the PPP lines in the bootup message sequence. > > > > I am convinced there must still be something to change in the setup > > program, but I have not the foggiest clue as to what it might be. > > > > When the boot failures occur, there is no speech, no keyboard entries are > > possible, and no error messages appear on the screen. The hard reset > > button still works, and when it next boots properly there is no forced > > disk check resulting from the hanging condition. > > > > But at least my DOS works and I can pay my bills, even if I cannot put > > this powerhouse to work on the scanner. > > > > Thanks for all your suggestions. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tony Baechler wrote: > > > > > Hi. You could try making sure plug and play is off in BIOS. This might > > > read something like "plug and play OS support" or something. You might > > > also make sure that the serial port assignments are not set to > > > "auto." Just manually set them to the correct IRQ and set the BIOS to > > > manual so it does not change them. 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