From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from w088.z208036108.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net ([208.36.108.88] helo=toccata.grg.afb.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15YvIa-0004ho-00 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:05:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.grg.afb.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7KK4Ms01949 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:04:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.grg.afb.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:04:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: No text editing??? In-Reply-To: <003501c129a7$4bca9750$d5015112@mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Rich: Speakup is as easy as asap. Need I say more? The numeric keypad works the same way ... 7 8 9 read a line -- previous current next in that order, just as in asap. So, to answer you directly? How easy is to read the current line? It's as easy as pressing 8 on the numeric keypad. On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Rich Caloggero wrote: > The one question I have, not being a speakup user myself, is how easy is it > to ask it to read the line or word that I'm on. For example, if I use the > arrow keys or whatever to read the screen in emacs under speakup and find a > place where I want to make a change. My cursor is in the correct place, but > I just want to hear some context now. Can I ask speakup to just read the > line the cursor is on, or even read the sentence or paragraph which contains > the cursor? I believe this is very different, and seems like an easier > problem to the one of automatically figuring out and then reading an item > after the cursor has been moved. > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirk Reiser" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:59 AM > Subject: Re: No text editing??? > > > > Let me give a tad of clarification for the new and prospective speakup > > users. Speakup allows you to have full editing capabilities, at least > > as full as any text based application under gnu/Linux. > > > > I use emacs with speakup with absolutely no difficulty and am using it > > currently to write this note. I do not use emacspeak although I under > > stand it is a fine product. > > > > Now where some folks are complaining about speakups lack is in > > automatic cursor speaking. Speakup tracks the cursor perfectly and is > > pretty well always where your cursor is. What speakup does not do is > > automatically speak the line you are moving to. It does not > > automatically say the characters you are moving onto. It does track > > the cursor though. There is an experimental mode of cursor speaking > > in the cvs version of speakup which in some applications works as well > > as any screen review package. In other applications it doesn't work > > so well. > > > > I am only saying these things because it creates a false impression > > that somehow speakup is inferior and it just plain isn't. I would be > > very happy to have folks help with fixing this situation of automatic > > speaking. It is not a trivial problem to do correctly. It is also > > not that high on my priority list because I have no problem writing, > > coding, reading and editing with it the way it currently works. > > > > Kirk > > > > -- > > > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp