From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from nyc-dyn-027.cosmoweb.net ([208.223.113.41] helo=toccata.grg.afb.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15Bell-0002p3-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:47:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.grg.afb.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5HFkcI12922 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:46:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.grg.afb.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:46:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: FAQ gally2: Speakup and Emacspeak In-Reply-To: <15148.47670.533435.340008@akp.selfhost.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Before I dive into my comments re the treatment of speakup vs emacspeak in the FAQ draft, let me again say that I'm very impressed, Ann, with the quality of this writing. It's not easy to make technical documentation clear. You've done a stellar job of it. Now to my comments. I post them to the list, by the way, because I suspect others may want to say something about this. I really don't think we've done the speakup vs emacspeak issue justice. The especially good at, and not especially good at business with telent and ftp leaves me cold. But, it also doesn't address the more central points, imho. So, let me suggest that: The greatest strength of speakup is that it's very easy to learn to use it once it's installed. In fact, for the most part, you'll just forget about speakup and concentrate on the things you're doing in linux instead. For example, you can surf the world wide web, and even play Real Audio and mp3 right from the command line. The strength of emacspeak is the clever and powerful way that the audio desktop works for blind users. The weakness of emacspeak is that there's a lot of commands to learn before you can get good at it. If you already know how to use emacs, you'll love emacspeak. If you don't know what that is, you'll have a lot of learning to do before you'll feel comfortable with emacspeak--though it's probably worth the effort.