From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lina.host4u.net ([216.71.64.105]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16L3i2-0000CL-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:46:38 -0500 Received: from lbear (mail@12-237-122-156.client.attbi.com [12.237.122.156]) by lina.host4u.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBVElFo25895 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:47:15 -0600 Received: from cpt.kirk (helo=localhost) by lbear with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16L3nO-0004dA-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:52:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:52:10 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Wood X-Sender: cpt.kirk@lbear To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Shaun Oliver wrote: > I'm in agreement with you. > the shell is not for everyone. > but having said that, if people think that lthe x-windows system is > going to be like ms windows, they have another thing coming. > they'll be both pleasantly surprised and in for a nasty shock. > in as much as with linux there isn't as many crashes as there is with > windows but by the same token, it pays to learn as much about your > machine as possible because linux isn't going to hand hold anybody > either. First, I want to challenge the notion that the sighted world all uses X. Many of us (I am a sightling) don't. I will say the majority due. Perhaps an overwhelming majority do. But the impression I have gotten when I last went to a Linux User Group in the Dallas area is that many still use a command shell window within X. As for the stability factor, I haven't tried X in about 2 years. But 2 years ago X had a long way to hve the stability of WIndows 9.x. I know that is blasphemy, but it is the truth. Perhaps the latest version are much better. I know that XFree has moved into the 4 series. But don't think that for a minute XFree 3 is as stable as Windows. I simply isn't, the good news being that you don't have to take the entire system down to recover. But if you have to restart the Windows, you have still lost everything that was running in that session. And it is still unstable. I would compare XFree version 3 with Windows version 3. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net One of the most overlooked advantages to computers is... If they do foul up, there's no law against whacking them around a little. -- Joe Martin