From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sdjernes.tzo.com(c934955-a.carneg1.pa.home.com[24.1.42.70]) (2997 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:37:11 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by sdjernes.tzo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01607 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:38:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: RE: Dialpad In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000628094412.00841dd0@greenbaynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Id: The trick with Java is what authoring package is used and what VM (virtual machine) the author is using. For example someone writing with Visual J++ for windows the default VM with be Microsoft VM but that could have been changed if the developer had wanted to. But if you write "generic" java then it will run on any VM that it can find. Oh, by the way Sun's VM will run on Windows but most people never install it because they don't think they need it. Shawn On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote: > If java was to be so universal, why do you seem to need these proprietary > programs to run it? We are still stuck with the OS the program was made > for, like microsoft virtual machine only runs in windows, sun's in unix, etc. > At 09:43 AM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: > >I guess my point is that we should start tracking what JAVA tools are > >being used to create the applications we're interested in. There's a > >difference among the various JAVA development tools. The ones we'd like to > >tap into, imho, are those from Sun, because they are disigned, explicitly > >and specifically, with disability in mind. > > > > > >On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Kirk Wood wrote: > > > >> I would not bet that Dialpad might work on Linux, but not with any of the > >> text based browsers. The catch is that the service uses a Java based > >> program. > >> > >> As for it being inherantly gui based, Java is definately not. In fact, IBM > >> has done quite a bit of work with speech access in Java. If memory serves > >> correctly, they even have a screen reader based entirely on Java. The > >> catch is that it must run in a virtual machine. It is possible to install > >> the Sun VM without having X on your system. In fact, apache has some Java > >> support. > >> > >> > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Information Systems Research & Development > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >janina@afb.net > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Shawn Djernes shawn@sdjernes.tzo.com | sdjernes@home.com http://sdjernes.tzo.com