From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net([199.45.39.156]) (3173 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:53:54 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net [151.200.20.29]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02747 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07621 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:54:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:54:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Janina Sajka X-Sender: janina@adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: RE: Dialpad In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000628094412.00841dd0@greenbaynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Id: No, not to run it, but to author the application. Authoring tools matter because different tools yield different results in terms of accessibility. On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote: > If java was to be so universal, why do you seem to need these proprietary > programs to run it? We are still stuck with the OS the program was made > for, like microsoft virtual machine only runs in windows, sun's in unix, etc. > At 09:43 AM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: > >I guess my point is that we should start tracking what JAVA tools are > >being used to create the applications we're interested in. There's a > >difference among the various JAVA development tools. The ones we'd like to > >tap into, imho, are those from Sun, because they are disigned, explicitly > >and specifically, with disability in mind. > > > > > >On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Kirk Wood wrote: > > > >> I would not bet that Dialpad might work on Linux, but not with any of the > >> text based browsers. The catch is that the service uses a Java based > >> program. > >> > >> As for it being inherantly gui based, Java is definately not. In fact, IBM > >> has done quite a bit of work with speech access in Java. If memory serves > >> correctly, they even have a screen reader based entirely on Java. The > >> catch is that it must run in a virtual machine. It is possible to install > >> the Sun VM without having X on your system. In fact, apache has some Java > >> support. > >> > >> > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Information Systems Research & Development > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >janina@afb.net > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Information Systems Research & Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina@afb.net