From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net([199.45.39.156]) (5649 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:54:09 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net [151.200.20.29]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15821 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11917 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:54:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:54:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Janina Sajka X-Sender: janina@adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000625174553.00826260@greenbaynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Id: Yes, and I'm suggesting this is unreasonable. It may serve their needs. Clearly, it doesn't serve yours. On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote: > The point is that they bounce mail after just four hours, causing you to > get kicked off a list if five mails come in with in that time. > At 05:37 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Well, all I can say, is that any ISP worth its salt should queu mail when > >your system is off line. To do otherwise is to disregard reality. No box > >is always online, not even the ones that are supposed to be. To clean up > >the common saying, stuff happens. The best intentions of being up 24 by 7 > >will go awry from time to time. > > > >I think there's no avoiding the need to have mail queu when the assigned > >delivery address is unavailable. I know that our isp for afb.net, for > >example, queus for five days. > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Information Systems Research & Development > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >janina@afb.net > > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote: > > > >> Cool, never thought about that before, nothing I ever used before could > >> compose offline. What I've thought of is is to deal with what happens to > >> mail addressed directly to my linux box, as my isp puts an x-from and puts > >> my linux box domain, which is valid when I'm online in the x-from header. > >> The hostname is set this way so telnet and other things can work when I > >> need them to, that's not as critical because people could try later when > >> I'm on, but mail doesn't cue up and stay there until I get on to have my > >> system receive it for whatever alias it may go to. The only other solution > >> would be a speech friendly way to run windows under linux, for when windows > >> is needed, so I could leave my system on in windows and my linux stuff > >> would continue working. > >> At 11:48 AM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Hi, Brett: > >> > > >> >I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my notebook > >> >computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my main > >> >machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I travel > >> >because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like Europe, it's > >> >far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel room. > >> > > >> >So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you: > >> > > >> >1.) I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp after > >> >establishing a ppp connection; > >> > > >> >2.) Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command -- > >> > > >> > sendmail -q0 > >> > > >> > that's send mail dash q zero > >> > > >> >to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal. > >> > > >> >This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my system. It's > >> >only active when I issue the command above, or another specific sendmail > >> >command. > >> > > >> >This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without trouble, > >> >whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my room, and > >> >whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply qued for later > >> >transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command once I'm > >> >online. > >> > > >> >PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my isp. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> > > >> > Janina Sajka, Director > >> > Information Systems Research & Development > >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >> > > >> >janina@afb.net > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Speakup mailing list > >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Information Systems Research & Development > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >janina@afb.net > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Information Systems Research & Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina@afb.net