From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net([199.45.39.156]) (5601 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:52:43 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net [151.200.20.29]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15233 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11911 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:53:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Janina Sajka X-Sender: janina@adsl-151-200-20-29.bellatlantic.net To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail In-Reply-To: <003c01bfdf0f$5fa4c2c0$b7105b80@wang> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Id: It slows the boot process considerably on my system. Also, I was not suggesting keeping a queu of outgoing mail for 4 or 5 days. I was saying that our isp holds our incoming mail that long, giving us a chance to fix whatever it is that is keeping us off-line. This is sufficient to hold mail should the server go down at the beginning of a three or four day holliday weekend--assuming no one would go in just to fix mail for a company that's not open for business. On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: > Well, I am not sure what you mean when you say that Sendmail daemon slows > down the system. It certainly doesn't in my case. My Sendmail simply tries > the message and if the connection is not present, itwill try later. I > wouldn't keep my mail for four days waiting to be sent! > Vic > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail > > > > Hi, Victor: > > > > Well, and it makes sense. I guess I just don't see the logic of having a > > mailor like sendmail always active if it can't be doing its job. Only > > slows down system performance. > > > > Besides, it's really cool to be able to write and queu mail while > > off-line. It's useful, for example, if I'm sitting in a conference and > > someone says to me, "Can you send me that in email?" I just do it right > > then. > > > > Janina > > > > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: > > > > > Hi, Janina! > > > I just wrote the same advice to Brad on another list. What a > coincidence! > > > Regards, > > > Vic > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janina Sajka" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:48 AM > > > Subject: Standalone E-Mail > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Brett: > > > > > > > > I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my notebook > > > > computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my > main > > > > machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I travel > > > > because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like Europe, > it's > > > > far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel room. > > > > > > > > So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you: > > > > > > > > 1.) I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp after > > > > establishing a ppp connection; > > > > > > > > 2.) Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command -- > > > > > > > > sendmail -q0 > > > > > > > > that's send mail dash q zero > > > > > > > > to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal. > > > > > > > > This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my system. > It's > > > > only active when I issue the command above, or another specific > sendmail > > > > command. > > > > > > > > This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without trouble, > > > > whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my room, > and > > > > whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply qued for > later > > > > transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command once > I'm > > > > online. > > > > > > > > PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my isp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > Information Systems Research & Development > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > janina@afb.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Information Systems Research & Development > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > janina@afb.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Information Systems Research & Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina@afb.net