From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.greenbaynet.com([208.178.204.36]) (4261 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:46:18 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from ras16-106.greenbaynet.com (bharding@ras16-106.greenbaynet.com [208.178.204.106]) by mail1.greenbaynet.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13791; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:42:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:46:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Brent harding X-Sender: bharding@wbth.dynodns.net To: Joseph Norton cc: bharding@wbth.dynodns.net, SPEAKUP Distribution List Subject: Re: E-mail on your own box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Id: It seemed that my provider allows these ports, mail comes in to my machine just fine when I come online. I don't think dynodns has that. What does tzo's free service give? On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Joseph Norton wrote: > Hi Brent: > > What happened with you getting "unexpectedly terminated?" Sounds ominous. > > Anyway, here's a little info that may be helpful, sorry if I'm being > redundant. > > As you know, it is possible to send and receive mail on your own Linux box > with the aid of services like dynodns.net, tzo.com or yi.org as long as > your isp doesn't block access to or from your machine on ports 25 and 110 > (to name just 2 of them). Sending mail is usually no problem unless > something goes wrong (like the message being deferred) that keeps it in > your mail queue. Receiving is a bit more ticklish as you need some > machine to store your mail when you're off-line. When you're on-line, > again, it's probably ok as long as the mail server trying to communicate > with you can access your machine on port 25. If you're off-line and no > other machine is mapped as a secondary mail exchanger, the messages people > send to your machine will be deferred at best, and bounced at worst. > > I don't know if dynodns.net offers any solution for this, but, tzo.com > does offer a service (unfortunately they charge around $60 for 5 megs of > storage per 6 months) which will take mail for > or > if you have a domain hosted by tzo. This is in addition to the charge for > the regular or premium service that does the dynamic domain > redirection. So, it's a bit costly, but, kind of neat anyway. I decided > to try it out for six months, but seriously doubt if I'll keep it, so, > it's back to my regular E-Mail address after that. If your ISP allows you > to send and receive on port 25, Tzo will map the primary mail exchanger > preference to your machine and the next preference to their machine. When > you're off line and the sending mail server can't communicate with your > machine, it tries the next preference and the machine at Tzo simply takes > the mail and holds it. When you sign on to Tzo, they dump the mail they > receive to your machine on port 25--to your machine, it looks like regular > messages coming in. If your ISP doesn't allow you to send and receive on > port 25, you can even have Tzo configured to use some other port to > communicate with your machine's smtp daemon. Of course, this means that > all mail to your machine must go through the Tzo server even when you're > on-line. Usually, in this case, Tzo doesn't bother using your machine as > one of the mail exchanger preferences since it probably won't work. Tzo's > only shortcoming is that you can't configure these preferences after you > set them up--you must call them or E-Mail them with the information. > > Hope this helps. > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Brent harding wrote: > > > That's what I would like to do. I might be switching isps soon, and would > > rather switch everything to that address now before I get terminated > > unexpectedly again. > > I had pine set up to use my local smtp, and it sent as from > > wbth.dynodns.net. Is there a way to make mail wait until I come on, or > > does the mail system fail if the system isn't always there? > > I'm using debian 2.2 potato. > >