From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rdsmtp.iglou.com (rdsmtp.iglou.com [192.107.41.63]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3238C1A28B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iglou1.iglou.com ([192.107.41.3]:65105 helo=mail.iglou.com) by rdsmtp.iglou.com with esmtpa (Exim MTA/8.19.3) (envelope-from ) id 1NykXJ-0001wu-Qi by authid with igloumta_auth for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:32:09 -0400 Received: from shell1.iglou.com ([192.107.41.17]:40553 helo=shell1) by mail.iglou.com with esmtps (TLS cipher TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim MTA/8.19.3) (envelope-from ) id 1NykXJ-0006QA-Jw for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:32:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:32:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Will Smith X-X-Sender: wilsmith@shell1 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Re: Some audio tutorials for installing archlinux In-Reply-To: <4BB9C7B4.6030307@aim.com> Message-ID: References: <4BB90155.80205@aim.com> <4917F2C6F9874493AD0DDA1A768F8477@Jepelsy.local> <0990A50702E447F2ABAFF729B277B111@tess> <4BB9C7B4.6030307@aim.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: 192.107.41.17 X-IgLou-Customer: c8c225e8f810ddcbc9eb0db07c4b17c6 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:32:25 -0000 I hope a transcript in print can be offered. The tutorial sounds interesting, but I still use dialup a lot. Will wilsmith@iglou.com On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Michael Whapples wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. I think then a transcript/written version (possibly > better not as a direct transcript as I do sometimes ramble on) would solve > some of the issues with speaking rate, the UK accent, etc. I am aware that > the recording is quite long as is and slowing down will only make this worse, > so that's why I prefer written in that case. Regarding the speed of the > computer speech this is the default on the GRML CD, may be the default should > be slower. > > Now to other matters. The file, that is about the correct size (27MB), I > don't know why it goes wrong in windows media player, either windows media > player has trouble where other players don't or may be something went wrong > in your file transfer. As for why I prefer GNU parted, suppose biggest reason > is familiarity. I don't know whether cfdisk can do this, but should you need > to resize a partition then parted can do this (WARNIG: you would be well > recommended to read parted documentation to see how to do this and which file > systems it supports it on). > > Michael Whapples > On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Arthur Pirika wrote: >> hi, the file worked fine here. were you using windows to download? >> sometimes internet explorer likes to make you think the files fully >> downloaded when it really isn't. Personally, i found eSpeak to be at just >> the right rate for me, I seem to remember grml having a faster rate by >> default? But, I, to, say good job, mike. >> Oh, one question. why do you prefer gnu parted over the other tools on the >> cd? cfDisk, for instance, let's you cursor around your drives, showing >> immediately which flags are selected, the sizes of the partitions, etc. It >> also autofills in sizes, so you don't have to calculate them by hand. >> >> Arthur. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JP Jamous" >> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" >> >> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:33 PM >> Subject: RE: Some audio tutorials for installing archlinux >> >> >> >>> Michael, >>> >>> Wonderful job. I really learned quite a bit as a new Linux user. Here are >>> my >>> comments though. >>> >>> 1. Considering that the list is diverse, English is a problem. I am >>> Lebanese >>> and speak Arabic, English and French. However, I have lived in the States >>> for 16 years and heard so many accents. It took me a couple of minutes to >>> get used to your accent. >>> >>> Nothing wrong with it. Yet, I had to listen carefully to pick up on how >>> you >>> pronounce your words. To solve this, I would recommend you speak slowly. >>> Also avoid any day to day rambling, as I like to call it. This is when you >>> do not pronounce the word fully and or you chop off some letters. Those >>> are >>> really hard on people who do not speak good English and or do not have >>> experiences with different dialects. >>> >>> The same goes to your SWSpeak. It was running too fast to understand it. I >>> would recommend you slow it down. This way, both new and advanced users >>> can >>> keep up. Let's take as an example JAWS when it first installs. It runs the >>> default speed rate, which is understandable by everyone. I later end up >>> increasing it to 50%, which is what I like. >>> >>> 2. I would recommend you have an outline at first. Think of it as a table >>> of >>> contents explaining what you are going to do in details and each step. >>> >>> For example, I followed the installation with a few questions. >>> >>> 1. Did you install SWSpeak first to have speech output than you installed >>> the operating system? >>> >>> 2. How did SWSpeak knew what sound card you were using and how did it >>> install without an operating system installed. >>> >>> Those are the kinds of questions a new user would be wondering. This way, >>> you can outline your steps and provide the technical background necessary >>> for people to understand what is going on behind the scenes. >>> >>> 3. Your MP3 broke and Windows Media Player couldn't read it after the >>> deletion of the partition. It was obvious that the MP3 coding was damaged >>> at >>> that point. It could be the server you had it on. I downloaded about 27 mb >>> of the file. >>> >>> 4. If you would like a server to publish it. I would be more than happy to >>> provide you with space on my server. I am really beginning to get into >>> Linux >>> and with a FTP account, you can just upload your web site and people can >>> download it easily. Get back with me on this one if you are interested. >>> You >>> can e-mail me off the list so we do not waste other members' time. >>> >>> In summation, great work. I got the feel of how it runs and hearing it is >>> a >>> great tool. This way, you can follow through. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca >>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] >>> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples >>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:15 PM >>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>> Subject: Some audio tutorials for installing archlinux >>> >>> Hello, >>> I decided to record some audio tutorials for installing archlinux. I >>> started >>> by doing one on using the GRML liveCD to do the install, however this lead >>> to quite a long recording being just short of two hours. So I decided to >>> do >>> one using the speakup modified archlinux installer CD, this came out at >>> about one and a half hours (still a little longer than I really want). >>> >>> I decided before finding a permanent home for these, I would let people >>> have >>> a listen to the initial recordings (I may try and get a bit more editing >>> done on these) and see which people feel are of value. If you feel a >>> written >>> copy of these would be better please say so. >>> >>> The links for now are: >>> The GRML based install http://www.sendspace.com/file/4s4p17 >>> Using the speakup modified archlinux installer CD >>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/e02n38 >>> >>> Thanks for any feedback. >>> >>> Michael Whapples >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >