From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F2B10A4B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix, from userid 1024) id BBF5622A5F; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:12:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DEE22A5E for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:12:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Jude DaShiell To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: re: vinux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:12:06 -0000 For really fast booting systems, ubuntu is a nightmare. If a system boots slower ubuntu probably will work, but with vinux even on a fast booting system you boot it and wait and in time orca comes up talking. The thing with ubuntu as was explained over on the gnome-orca list is that several issues with ubuntu regarding use of root account with speech were fixed in vinux and those fixes went out pre-packaged. I do have an older version of ubuntu around which needed sighted assistance to get installed and talking because of that booting issue. There's no way I could recommend ubuntu as a first Linux for a blind person needing accessibility like orca but could recommend grml or vinux or debian though. What was a nice surprise with grml was that it installed on my laptop and runs, I don't know that the other flavors of Linux can do that especially not debian.