From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ip15.shellworld.net ([64.49.204.174] helo=server2.shellworld.net ident=root) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CCmmp-0005RE-00 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:18:59 -0400 Received: from server2.shellworld.net (klewellen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server2.shellworld.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8TMIx9P072085 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:18:59 GMT (envelope-from klewellen@shellworld.net) Received: from localhost (klewellen@localhost) by server2.shellworld.net (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i8TMIxO4072082 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:18:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server2.shellworld.net: klewellen owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:18:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Karen Lewellen To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20040928003402.GD25684@romuald.net.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Linux and data storage? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:18:59 -0000 Thanks Luc, I will read the rsync manual pa ge before trying anything to be sure. and I am happy you have not had this experience, indeed i have, and I am not talking about floppies either. I would not be this firm without the reason of experience. Thanks for your wisdom none the less. Karen On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Luke Davis wrote: > Karen, you could find out all of these things yourself, without their > intervention--see Janina's latest message on this thread. The compression is > also your issue--it's not them you have to trust to uncompress it, it is you > who has to be (dis)trusted to decompress it. > > If you are unsure of yourself, I suggest you learn a little before you do > anything. Doing it that way because somebody told you to, with your own > emotional biases coloring the degree to which you follow the advice given, is > a dangerous thing, without knowing exactly what you are doing. > > Read the rsync manual page. That will give you your syntax. > > Re compression: in ten years of compressing everything from text documents, > to operating systems, to entire file systems, to boot disks, I have never, I > say again: never, had a compressed file, either PK zip, Gnu zip, or bzip2, > spontaineously corrupt. > > Given your fear, I imagine that you have, but in those circumstances, was it > the compressed nature of the data, or the compression medium? Floppies, for > example, have a tendancy to lose data. > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >> Thanks by the way for the site in your note above. >> They are not using freebds, and do not know how to install even the basic >> things. Pine is at 4.0 or4.1 and even it does not function properly. >> I do not trust their limited knowledge to compress data that may or may >> not be decompressed later. it is red hat that they use...they think. >> Karen >> >> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Even if they're using freebsd, tar, bzip, and bzip2 should still be >>> there. These are not gnu/linux-specific utilities. >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 07:23:08PM -0500, Luke Davis wrote: >>>> Do you want a backup, or a mirror? If you want a backup, then you >>>> will >>>> never have to expand that data--it is just there in case something >>>> goes >>>> seriously wrong on Shellworld. >>>> >>>> If they are running Linux, then they have tar. If they are running >>>> Linux, >>>> then they have gzip. >>>> As for bzip2, that may be questionable, but if you have shell access, >>>> you >>>> could always just check. >>>> >>> >>> - -- >>> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) >>> >>> iD8DBQFBWLF67s9z/XlyUyARAnBKAKCGn93IlyhQGdu72V9gcxyTPWg7rACfTmWf >>> +e2J68TOQ+PewItu2yhkAtI= >>> =c1g1 >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >