From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from server1.shellworld.net ([64.39.15.178] ident=root) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19dEU6-00070j-00 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:32:10 -0400 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (ldavis@localhost.shellworld.net [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (8.12.8/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h6HJW7LU030175; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:32:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ldavis@shellworld.net) Received: from localhost (ldavis@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HJW6If030172; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:32:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ldavis@shellworld.net) X-Authentication-Warning: server1.shellworld.net: ldavis owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:32:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Luke Davis To: Stoppard cc: Speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Visualy impaired In-Reply-To: <000f01c34c81$57522800$c807fe3e@NigelStoppard> Message-ID: References: <20030716211951.GB6547@h14me.homelinux.net> <16150.34493.691546.370387@akp@eznet.net> <000f01c34c81$57522800$c807fe3e@NigelStoppard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Nigel This list has a very stand offish atitude to new users. It's not intentional, but for some reason it happens. I've been using Linux since 1996, and when I first wanted to try speakup, I got a similar treatment to what you're getting now. Like I said, it's not intentional, and I would suggest you try to forget it, and take from it what education on the points that you can. To answer your questions: Speakup is a screen reader, developed by blind people, for blind people, and used by blind people. I know of no sighted people on this list. The list has both developers and users on it. Stick it out--once you get past the hazing, you'll like it here. Luke On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Stoppard wrote: > Hi Ann and all. > Sorry i did really not mean to offened any one, although i admit i was tired > and stressed when i made that post. > All i ment to ask was if the speakUp list has developers users or both on > it. I was not trying to say one thing or another. > I am sorry for asking this question. > Nigel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Parsons" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:21 PM > Subject: Re: Visualy impaired > > > > Hi all, > > > > Great post, Chuck. I admit I was a trifle sarcastic, but Nigel's > > logic just was so outlandish, I was astonished. > > > > Ann P. > > > > -- > > Ann K. Parsons > > email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 > > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > > "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." > JRRT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >