From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from oe9.pav2.hotmail.com ([64.4.36.113] helo=hotmail.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16agLU-000108-00 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:03:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:03:27 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [24.158.79.84] From: "Ameer Armaly" To: References: Subject: Re: pine and the char set thing Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:03:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2002 17:03:27.0477 (UTC) FILETIME=[30736250:01C1B3E7] Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Or, like JFW, you can add a feature to speakup that let's you hit a shift key and scip ahead in the text. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hallenbeck" To: "Speakup Distribution List" Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: pine and the char set thing > I use pine and I get to see all those char set things too, but I > do not mind them a lot. What happens is that pine lets you > configure just one char set as its "official" char set, and when > an arriving message uses a different one, it warns you about it. > Perhaps that should be elevated to a "feature" in pine that could > be turned on or off, but right now it is a fixed behavior. > > Users of speakup often listen to their mail "directly" - i.e., > spontaneously, as it is placed on the screen. When that happens, > you cannot just skip ahead three or four lines to get past those > char set messages. What you can do is to kill the speech when > those messages start to appear, but then you lose your place and > must use review keys to go back and find what you would have > heard if you had just waited for the messages to be read and > proceed forward with the text. I think some folks do not rely on > the direct or spontaneous mode, but use review for everything. > They can easily kill a line they do not want to hear by just > hitting the "next line please" key. They will not lose their > place in the material the way people would who rely on direct > reading. > > Anyway I kind of enjoy hearing those messages; it lets me know > who is still using Windows and who has kicked the habit. :-) If > David boehlman and others ever figure out how to fix their > Outlook Express to use the same char set as Pine is using, they > will in effect be "passing" and we will never ever know for > sure!!! > > So even if it wastes five or six seconds per email, I cannot get > excited about those pesky messages. If it becomes a selectable > feature of Pine in a future release, so that it could be turned > off, I will probably leave mine turned on. People ought to be > able to use the char set of their choosing as long as it does not > interfere with the content of their messages. > > Chuck > > > Visit me now at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck > The Moon is New > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >