From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.49] helo=scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16T379-0000ZW-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:45:35 -0500 Received: from user-2ivftg5.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.246.5] helo=home) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16T379-0005K9-00 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:45:35 -0800 From: "David Arocho" To: Subject: RE: Needs educating: Message from Linux (fwd) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:44:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01C1A2B4.18A0F820" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <002c01c1a35a$2ee49140$0100a8c0@tward> Importance: Normal Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Reply-To: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C1A2B4.18A0F820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the info. I would be interested in hearing more about it. I will do a search, but if you have a specific site that may be most helpful, let me know. My concern is that the efforts underway have ample input from people with disabilities, and that the accessibility features be built in so that we don't have to depend on one vendor or another to catch up as the technology is enhanced. I am not a techy, but I would like to see a group spring up which can help fund the current efforts to a degree that will make this available in the near future. There have been several efforts in the past, mainly university projects, that have died on the vine for lack of financial support. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C1A2B4.18A0F820 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment Reply-To: From: "Thomas Ward" Sender: To: References: Subject: Re: Needs educating: Message from Linux (fwd) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:15:01 -0800 Message-ID: <002c01c1a35a$2ee49140$0100a8c0@tward> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Importance: Normal I take it you don't know much bout the Gnome 2.0 project. Well, here is a more in depth look at Gnome 2. Which is part of the x-windows system. 1. Gnome 2 is being majorly over halled with speech accessible widgits, screen reader hooks, and other fixes to make it accessible. 2. synth driver support is being added to support synths for Linux. This project is called Gnome-speech. 3. the gtk+ language is being modified so that from now on all applications using the standard gtk+ 2 will come out of the box accessible with Gnopernicus and other x screen readers like it. So steps are being taken to make X accessible, but it merely takes time. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Arocho To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:08 PM Subject: RE: Needs educating: Message from Linux (fwd) > The real question is access. Neither JAWS nor WINDOW EYES can give full > access to the Windows operating system. If you get away from the small > number of familiar Microsoft applications, you find that you have to limp > along. This will be so until speech and Braille and large print access are > built right into the operating system. Linux is the only operating system > that has a prayer of getting such access built in. However, until > X-windows is made accessible, Linux will remain a solution for only a few. > If it is not done soon, though, and X-windows gets to challenge Microsoft > for its dominance, blind people will again be left out in the cold. The > fact is tat, unless some of us get behind it and push and make our own way > to get X-windows accessible, it is not going to get done. If any of you > are interested in working aggressively toward that end, let me hear from > you privately. Lists are great for getting people in touch, but they all > tend to go in the direction of griping sessions a la talk radio. Let's > start doing, as talk is very cheap and time is not on our side. > > David Arocho > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C1A2B4.18A0F820--