From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 66-197-196-101.hostnoc.net ([66.197.196.101] helo=www5.stonewebs.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1HUyQY-0005RN-00 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:04:30 -0400 Received: from va-71-51-17-100.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([71.51.17.100] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by www5.stonewebs.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HUyQf-0007qB-5M for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:04:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <7886E30AFD334C46A3C6F8BD7C185F6F025D0424@COCMAIL3.coc.ca> <6748102D-8A53-4488-ACEF-B20066CC3E04@softcon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Travis Siegel Subject: Baens bar software (was NAEB looking for speakup folks to help implement on ebook reader) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:57:46 -0400 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: movies@softcon.com,tsiegel@softcon.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www5.stonewebs.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - braille.uwo.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - softcon.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:04:30 -0000 Actually, for the bar, if you use the classic mode (or old bar I think they call it) it works fairly well with screen readers. That way, you can also sign up to receive bar discussions via email. That's how I participate. I agree, that since they've changed their format last year, things got *real* hard to access, but that's a result of the software they use, not a conscience design decision on their part. It's extremely unfortunate that they didn't test compatibility before upgrading to the new web software, but that's the nature of the beast unfortunately. If you want to complain to someone who *might* help, I'd say complain to the shopping cart software folks. I don't remember which one it is, but I'll find out and post if folks are really interested in pushing it. I did complain to the makers, but received no response, so I don't know how much good it will do, but perhaps if more than one email comes in, they might actually pay attention.