From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (mta1.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.194]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7814DC1A0B2 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:50:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mta1.math.wisc.edu Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta1.math.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id izjPrP4mLxSN for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:50:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD213E0069 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:50:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from ulam.math.wisc.edu (ulam.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.245]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:50:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from vv507j (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ulam.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 956802BE53 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:50:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "John Heim" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <475B4523EF334135A018D4E9EC3CD3ED@randy3> <20120214200046.GA5144@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: still more on bug Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:50:01 -0600 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:50:03 -0000 Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: still more on bug > John Heim wrote > | Well, admittedly, we have a problem down the road regarding serial > | hardware synths. But it will be years before serial ports go away > | entirely. Every Dell server class machine still comes with at least > | one serial port. I don't know about other server manufacturers but I > | would guess they're the same. In fact, even dell small footprint > | desktops still have serial ports. So I think it will be some time > | before server class machines don't come with serial ports. And even > | after serial ports become obsolete, speakup won't be obsolete, it > | will just have to start supporting USB synths. > > You say just like it's easy to fix speakup to do what you want it to do. > It's not that easy in fat to fix the code, hell i'd fix it if i could my > husband would fix it if he could probably, but it's not that easy. > First of all, I didn't say it was going to be easy. But have you tried? Are you an experienced C coder? Are you saying you tried and found it couldn't be done? > I've got a couple serial synths laying around but the fact is that i've > not had a computer with a serial port since 2007 so yep, guess they're out > of date. Last time i tried ordering a computer i couldn't get del or hp to > add them even though i wanted them. I am typing this on a Dell Optiplex 760 with a serial port. We have about 100 760s all with serial ports. We have another 40 small footprint 760s in our student labs all with serial ports. We have about a dozen newer Dell desktops and they all have serial ports. I don't know how you managed to order a Dell w/o a serial port but its not that hard to get one with it. And those are just desktops. Of course, every one of our servers has a serial port. We have 3 mail servers, 2 DNS servers, 3 web servers, and 6 machines in our VMware cluster. All have serial ports. I just built myself a machine for home with parts ordered from newegg. The mobo didn't have an external serial port but it does have a serial port header. So then it was just a matter of attaching the appropriate cable. So even a machine I built myself has a serial port. Look, I'm not saying you don't come across machines w/o serial ports. But holy cow, I have certainly never had any trouble finding machines with serial ports. Laptops & apples... You're in trouble there.