From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id E49CC1C57BA; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.forethought.net (mx01.forethought.net [216.98.197.2]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1A3E1C0DB1 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx01.forethought.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D197961182 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:59:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.199 tagged_above=-999 required=10 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_50=0.8, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mx01.forethought.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx01.forethought.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gzchtjo-hJMr for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from msa.forethought.net (msa.forethought.net [216.241.36.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.forethought.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58C5560D18 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 75-166-70-176.hlrn.qwest.net ([75.166.70.176] helo=rings.ka0vba.ampr.org) by msa02.forethought.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1jHHpZ-0005tJ-DE for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 20:01:13 -0600 Received: from mail by rings.ka0vba.ampr.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1jHHnb-0000mu-AZ for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:59:11 -0600 To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: [raspberry-vi] A bit off topic, Speakup and Debian Stretch-Buster (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20200322210257.zqxh5jp7fo64hp36@function> Message-Id: From: mail Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:59:11 -0600 X-Authenticated-Sender: ka0vba@dimcom.net X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 01:59:23 -0000 This may be related: I am trying to install debian10.3 from the installation iso (I think it was dated February 8th. The Kernel hangs issueing the following message repeatedly until I shut down the system: "/var/run/brltty-xorg no such fileor directory." Of course I am not attempting to use brltty. I also noticed that there is not aninstallation option for brltty. There is not even an option for a hardware synthizer with speakup. Can it be that some installer person has decided to combine all accessibility drivers into one installation option and one kernel, whether they work together or not? It occurs to me that a hung kernel stuck issuing an error message like that might stop the whole system from talking, Since brltty is not a module, I cannot even use brltty.blacklist=yes. Even if this is not related, can someone figure out how to get it fixed. How about taking brltty completely out of the kernel and make the brltty users make their own kernels, like the speakup users had to do before we learned to work with the kernel, and play nice. D. Curtis Willoughby ka0vba@dimcom.net p.s. We really need an installer option to install with a hardware synthizer, too!